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Potential new coaches

Mark Montgomery is the guy I want, at this point in time.

Gregory was the guy I wanted here last time...before he pulled out of consideration...and Montgomery is the next guy in line at MSU that is due to have his own program...
 
Grassman said:
I believe Bo Ryan, one of the best coaches, if not the best Coach in the Big 10, was a D-3 Coach before he took over the Wisconsin program. Wisconsin Lacrosse(?)
The supply of potential coaches does not need to end at the D-1 level.
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Correct...


Not many around these parts like him, but Bruce Pearl coached at Southern Indiana and made them into a perennial national contender in D-3
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
So far the assistant compensation hasn't been, thus what we currently have...
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Well, in accordance with BBraves post. . .they are probably at or better than market value for their services, so. . .

There hasn't been immediate change, and the change will take some time as the University adjusts things to make the necessary budget room to make the improvements happen. But they will happen.

I know someone who took a job at a DIII school and is getting paid nearly 3 times more than what their supervisor in athletics at Bradley makes.
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
Correct...


Not many around these parts like him, but Bruce Pearl coached at Southern Indiana and made them into a perennial national contender in D-3
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In fairness, it is a lot easier to be successful at a huge state school like Wisconsin, which has an enormous fan base, an unlimited athletic department and recruiting budget, and instant connections throughout the state and midwest to get the top tier of recruits.
Rob Jeter, who was a highly touted assistant under Ryan and is now at Wisconsin-Milwaukee, has not had nearly as much success.
 
Da Coach said:
In fairness, it is a lot easier to be successful at a huge state school like Wisconsin, which has an enormous fan base, an unlimited athletic department and recruiting budget, and instant connections throughout the state and midwest to get the top tier of recruits.
Rob Jeter, who was a highly touted assistant under Ryan and is now at Wisconsin-Milwaukee, has not had nearly as much success.
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Um...did you miss the point where we were discussing the careers of Ryan and Pearl at D-3?!
 
No, I got that point- but my point was that the liklihood of a coach moving from D3 to a low-major or midmajor and being successful can't quite be compared with one moving to a major state school. The are a lot more D2 and D3 coaches who eventually get D1 jobs and aren't so successful than those who do succeed.
 
Good coaches are good coaches.

They will win wherever they are.

Whenever you hire a new coach, there is some gamble involved. You never know how it will end up.
 
I can't agree. There are a lot of good coaches that can't win because of circumstances beyond their control (mostly related to recruiting and facilities). Carmody is a good example.
 
Da Coach said:
I can't agree. There are a lot of good coaches that can't win because of circumstances beyond their control (mostly related to recruiting and facilities). Carmody is a good example.
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Good coaches win.

Carmody took the job knowing about facilities and recruiting. It's not like they changed after he went their.

Same with Les.
 
Da Coach said:
I can't agree. There are a lot of good coaches that can't win because of circumstances beyond their control (mostly related to recruiting and facilities). Carmody is a good example.
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I agree for the most part, but Bill Carmody is not a good recruiter at all. Former Wildcat Tavaras Hardy has taken over their recruiting, and they've landed several players that Carmody initially dismissed because he didn't think they'd fit his style.

The man to thank for that is not Bill Carmody. Carmody is one of the best X's and O's coaches in the game, but a brilliant recruiter he is not. No, the man behind Northwestern's recruiting awakening is 29-year-old assistant coach and NU alum Tavaras Hardy, who also landed super sophomore John Shurna. When I reached Hardy by phone recently, I asked him how he went about selling Northwestern basketball.

"Northwestern is actually a great product to sell in many ways, because we're in the Big Ten, we have great academics, and we're right next to a great city, Chicago," Hardy told me. "But we don't have a tradition of winning championships, and our facilities aren't as good as many other Big Ten schools. So we're trying to get kids to look beyond that. We're saying to them, ‘Come here, get an incredible education, play early, and be part of history — be part of something special.' But it takes a special kind of young man to buy into that, and we have to work that much harder and be that much smarter about recruiting."

His hard work has paid off, as the Wildcats are now in the mix for a handful of top 150 players.

http://deadspin.com/5448578/so-you-...emerges-from-the-loins-of-an-nba-ref#comments
 
ER3 said:
wonderful example. Yeah, you totally get it. :roll::roll::roll: :lol::lol::lol:
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I don't believe I'm the one that said.......

"Good coaches are good coaches."

"Good coaches win."

"The will win wherever they are."


Those seem like blanket statements to me. Just thought I'd point out a GREAT coach that doesn't seem to be winning much these days. I'm sorry you don't agree.
 
shaunguth said:
I don't believe I'm the one that said.......

"Good coaches are good coaches."

"Good coaches win."

"The will win wherever they are."


Those seem like blanket statements to me. Just thought I'd point out a GREAT coach that doesn't seem to be winning much these days. I'm sorry you don't agree.
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Who are you KIDDING?

It IS a blanket statement...as said previously his record is 607-149 for his career. He's a winner....Good coaches win...what else do you want? He might not be at national championship level again but that's because they're ravished by the NBA draft. Not a bad problem or season to have in my book. Once every 5 years to take a break because everyone went to the NBA.
 
Da Coach said:
No, I got that point- but my point was that the liklihood of a coach moving from D3 to a low-major or midmajor and being successful can't quite be compared with one moving to a major state school. The are a lot more D2 and D3 coaches who eventually get D1 jobs and aren't so successful than those who do succeed.
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Bet there are more coaches who get their first coaching job at the D1 level and aren't so successful. ;-)
 
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