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Prouty System Player Ratings

shaunguth said:
I'm not so sure about last TWO games. He did have nine rebounds against Creighton, but he also missed two layups while shooting 25% from the field. His only made basket was a dunk. Nine rebounds in 24 minutes is impressive, but two points in 24 minutes is not!

I do agree, however, that his last game was better. Maybe it's just me, but I would rather see him go for 9 points and 5 rebounds than 2 points and 9 rebounds.
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Salley and Austin are the only two post players that can play any semblance of defense in the post...I wholeheartedly agree with anyone that is frustrated with Salley's offensive limitations...but he is what he is. Defensively and on the boards he is light years ahead of where Collins and Singh are at this point...and that is why he gets the minutes.
 
ER3 said:
Salley and Austin are the only two post players that can play any semblance of defense in the post...I wholeheartedly agree with anyone that is frustrated with Salley's offensive limitations...but he is what he is. Defensively and on the boards he is light years ahead of where Collins and Singh are at this point...and that is why he gets the minutes.
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Seems to me we give up a LOT of layups and easy baskets! Doesn't say much for Collins and Singh if Salley's defense is "light years ahead".

Salley can rebound.
 
shaunguth said:
Seems to me we give up a LOT of layups and easy baskets! Doesn't say much for Collins and Singh if Salley's defense is "light years ahead".

Salley can rebound.
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Oh...don't get me wrong...I'm not suggesting that Salley should clear off a place on the mantle for his All-MVC Defensive team trophy...not even close...
But he brings a physical presence, energy, and level of intensity on defense that Collins is nowhere near capable of bringing right now...
And Singh just doesn't have the foot speed or athleticism to allow him to defend and rebound as well as Salley does. He sets some good screens and he can be effective as a screen-and-roll guy offensively, though.
 
Adjusted Prouty Ratings for UWM:

.400 - Paige Paulsen, Sr, F, 6-7, 210, 34.6 min/game

.378 - Marcus Skinner, Sr, F, 6-6, 215, 22.2 min/game

.331 - Deion James, Jr, G, 6-1, 180, 18.5 min/game

.315 - Ricky Franklin, Jr, G, 6-1, 200, 29.5 min/game

.314 - Deonte Roberts, Fr, G, 6-3, 190, 25.1 min/game

.280 - Allan Hanson, Sr, G, 6-0, 170, 22.2 min/game

.268 - Jason Averkamp, So, F, 6-6, 230, 6.6 min/game

.251 - Kaylan Anderson, So, G, 6-5, 195, 8.8 min/game

.244 - Anthony Hill, Fr, F, 6-7, 230, 5.7 min/game

.221 - Charlie Swiggett, So, G, 6-1, 180, 11.9 min/game
 
Bradley Player Ratings (through 29 games)

Prouty Ratings
.438 Daniel Ruffin
.430 Jeremy Crouch
.386 Andrew Warren
.384 Theron Wilson
.360 Sam Maniscalco
.330 Matt Salley
.313 David Collins
.293 Sam Singh
.231 Rashad Austin
.220 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.183 Will Egolf

Adjusted Ratings
.456 Daniel Ruffin
.417 Jeremy Crouch
.381 Andrew Warren
.378 Theron Wilson
.357 David Collins
.353 Sam Maniscalco
.329 Matt Salley
.325 Sam Singh
.257 Rashad Austin
.234 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.207 Will Egolf
 
Bradley Player Ratings (through 30 games)

Prouty Ratings
.432 Daniel Ruffin
.426 Jeremy Crouch
.381 Theron Wilson
.379 Andrew Warren
.356 Sam Maniscalco
.330 Matt Salley
.308 David Collins
.286 Sam Singh
.232 Rashad Austin
.212 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.182 Will Egolf

Adjusted Ratings
.454 Daniel Ruffin
.415 Jeremy Crouch
.379 Andrew Warren
.376 Theron Wilson
.352 David Collins
.350 Sam Maniscalco
.331 Matt Salley
.317 Sam Singh
.257 Rashad Austin
.224 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.207 Will Egolf
 
Bradley Player Ratings (final regular season)

Prouty Ratings
.432 Daniel Ruffin
.427 Jeremy Crouch
.383 Theron Wilson
.372 Andrew Warren
.351 Sam Maniscalco
.328 Matt Salley
.306 David Collins
.279 Sam Singh
.241 Rashad Austin
.213 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.181 Will Egolf

Adjusted Ratings
.455 Daniel Ruffin
.419 Jeremy Crouch
.380 Theron Wilson
.376 Andrew Warren
.352 David Collins
.346 Sam Maniscalco
.330 Matt Salley
.310 Sam Singh
.269 Rashad Austin
.226 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.206 Will Egolf
 
Top 10 players in the Valley - regular season final:

Prouty Ratings
.482 Adam Emmenecker (Drake)
.473 Osiris Eldridge (Illinois State)
.469 Jonathan Cox (Drake)
.469 Josh Young (Drake)
.463 Leonard Houston (Drake)
.447 Eric Coleman (Northern Iowa)
.432 Daniel Ruffin (Bradley)
.429 Dane Watts (Creighton)
.429 Anthony Slack (Illinois State)
.427 Jeremy Crouch (Bradley)


Adjusted Ratings
.471 Eric Coleman (Northern Iowa)
.455 Daniel Ruffin (Bradley)
.454 Osiris Eldridge (Illinois State)
.443 Jordan Eglseder (Northern Iowa)
.440 Josh Young (Drake)
.438 Adam Emmenecker (Drake)
.432 Booker Woodfox (Creighton)
.432 Jonathan Cox (Drake)
.430 Anthony Slack (Illinois State)
.430 Dane Watts (Creighton)

Crouch finished #13 in the Adjusted Ratings.
 
Bradley Player Ratings (through 33 games)

Prouty Ratings
.427 Jeremy Crouch
.420 Daniel Ruffin
.388 Theron Wilson
.369 Andrew Warren
.349 Sam Maniscalco
.333 Matt Salley
.305 David Collins
.280 Sam Singh
.238 Rashad Austin
.209 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.177 Will Egolf

Adjusted Ratings
.439 Daniel Ruffin
.419 Jeremy Crouch
.386 Theron Wilson
.374 Andrew Warren
.350 David Collins
.343 Sam Maniscalco
.336 Matt Salley
.313 Sam Singh
.265 Rashad Austin
.222 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.202 Will Egolf
 
Bradley Player Ratings (through 35 games)

Prouty Ratings
.435 Jeremy Crouch
.423 Daniel Ruffin
.394 Theron Wilson
.378 Andrew Warren
.356 Sam Maniscalco
.345 Matt Salley
.308 David Collins
.283 Sam Singh
.238 Rashad Austin
.209 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.173 Will Egolf

Adjusted Ratings
.437 Daniel Ruffin
.424 Jeremy Crouch
.389 Theron Wilson
.381 Andrew Warren
.353 David Collins
.348 Sam Maniscalco
.347 Matt Salley
.316 Sam Singh
.265 Rashad Austin
.222 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.197 Will Egolf
 
ER3 said:
Oh...don't get me wrong...I'm not suggesting that Salley should clear off a place on the mantle for his All-MVC Defensive team trophy...not even close...
But he brings a physical presence, energy, and level of intensity on defense that Collins is nowhere near capable of bringing right now...
And Singh just doesn't have the foot speed or athleticism to allow him to defend and rebound as well as Salley does. He sets some good screens and he can be effective as a screen-and-roll guy offensively, though.
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All these numbers and scenaro's! Give me a break! You people have to much time on your hands. Its all how the game is played, who shows up to play, and who's getting the job done in the coachs eye's.
This thing with DC is getting old! He has scored some points in the last couple games but he is still lost most of the time he is in there and for every point he he scores he allows 2 to 3 times that at the other end. Now he did have a block shot the last game, but then he turned around and got burned the next two time's down the floor.
People, this guy has been here all year now, he is 7' and 240, he should of showed us more by now! Even with his physical size, he hasn't shown the heart and motation that is needed to play. Hell he has hands as bad as Heem. did. He should alest know his defense asignments or act like he doe's!! I'm not saying he can't help this team next year but you can't teach someone heart and motavation. And if playing Dvi 1 for BU and playing in the MV at 7' doesn't trip your trigger, what the hell will!
 
Out of Balance said:
! You people have to much time on your hands.


As one of "you people" I know as soon as the weather breaks and I can start golfing again I'll have less time on MY hands.....I can't speak for the other "you people".

As far as "giving you a break"....its ok with me...take 15,20 whatever you need.
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dogsrus said:
Out of Balance said:
! You people have to much time on your hands.


As one of "you people" I know as soon as the weather breaks and I can start golfing again I'll have less time on MY hands.....I can't speak for the other "you people".

As far as "giving you a break"....its ok with me...take 15,20 whatever you need.
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Mean while, before you start golfing and running numbers on your score card, hows about helping me with my Check Book numbers!
NO MONEY IN THE ACCOUNT + NO MONEY COMING IN = $_______?????
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ER3 sees things similiar to me as Salley may not be the most talented player but if all of our bigs gave the same amount of effort they would be much better players, (Wilson is not a big so I do not include him ) Austin, Collins and Egolf need to be more physical .
 
Out of Balance said:
He has scored some points in the last couple games but he is still lost most of the time he is in there and for every point he he scores he allows 2 to 3 times that at the other end.
People, this guy has been here all year now, he is 7' and 240, he should of showed us more by now! Even with his physical size, he hasn't shown the heart and motation that is needed to play. Hell he has hands as bad as Heem. did. He should alest know his defense asignments or act like he doe's!! I'm not saying he can't help this team next year but you can't teach someone heart and motavation. And if playing Dvi 1 for BU and playing in the MV at 7' doesn't trip your trigger, what the hell will!
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I have a very hard time believing DC is personally responsible for allowing 12-18 points against Cincy and 12-18 against Virginia! I'll have to go back and watch the games and see how many points were scored during his minutes on the floor and how many points he "allowed". Do I believe he needs to show a much more physical presence....of course! At the same time, I think that can be said for most of our other bigs when it comes to giving up easy layups and handing out touch fouls at the same time! I really wish our bigs played more like SIU in that respect. If you're gonna foul a layup, then FOUL and don't let it be a three-point play. Maybe some players would think twice about driving it in there if you knock them down a few times!
 
shaunguth said:
I have a very hard time believing DC is personally responsible for allowing 12-18 points against Cincy and 12-18 against Virginia! I'll have to go back and watch the games and see how many points were scored during his minutes on the floor and how many points he "allowed". Do I believe he needs to show a much more physical presence....of course! At the same time, I think that can be said for most of our other bigs when it comes to giving up easy layups and handing out touch fouls at the same time! I really wish our bigs played more like SIU in that respect. If you're gonna foul a layup, then FOUL and don't let it be a three-point play. Maybe some players would think twice about driving it in there if you knock them down a few times!
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I never believed DC was responsible for those runs but he did get lost and didn't contest a couple shots he should of. I'm just saying I'm not sure where the guys heart is or where it will be next yr. Some people are easy going and less motavated than others. If he finds it, and at 7' 240 he should help this team and himself after he leaves (NBA or somewhere). As for all the bigs and contesting shots, you are right!! There shouldn't be a free-bee! Contest all shots with authority as to not let them score and get 1.
This will also send a message! Also, our bigs should keep (push) them out of the paint and there would be no easy ones. Put a body on them. SS doe's it as good as any of them but JL does not play him enough!
PUT A BODY ON THEM, NO FREEBEES, KNOCK THEM DOWN, SET HARD SREENS
AND YOU ARE RIGHT KNOCK THEM DOWN ON THEIR BUTTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Bradley Player Ratings (final ratings through 38 games)

Prouty Ratings
.429 Jeremy Crouch
.420 Daniel Ruffin
.388 Theron Wilson
.378 Andrew Warren
.349 Sam Maniscalco
.344 Matt Salley
.306 David Collins
.274 Sam Singh
.232 Rashad Austin
.205 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.169 Will Egolf

Adjusted Ratings
.435 Daniel Ruffin
.420 Jeremy Crouch
.386 Theron Wilson
.381 Andrew Warren
.349 David Collins
.347 Matt Salley
.345 Sam Maniscalco
.306 Sam Singh
.259 Rashad Austin
.221 Tyrone Cole-Scott
.193 Will Egolf
 
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