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BU30

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I am wondering if either of you think that Lovie Smith should be fired by the Bears. If yes why and if no why not??
 
BU30 said:
I am wondering if either of you think that Lovie Smith should be fired by the Bears. If yes why and if no why not??
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What has Lovie Smith got to do with Bradley basketball? And why not tell us what you think before trying to call out others you don't agree with?
Obviously I know why you are asking this "gotcha" question, but I think I am quite consistent. I am not in favor of firing Lovie. This is the first year he has been given a decent receiver to work with, and the team still has major deficiencies in the offensive line and tight ends. And he can't be blamed for key injuries to Cutler and Forte last year, and several key guys on defense this year. He took the Bears to a Super Bowl and I think he is a good coach. Also, there is no guarantee that hiring a new coach would make them better.
Do you think the Bears are so bad they need a complete rebuilding, including several years of bottom-of-the-league finishes, and multiple blowout losses each year before they can hope to be respectable again?
 
Nothing to do with Bradley basketball but very similiar to our last coaching change. Lovie is finishing his 9th year and has 3 playoff appearances to show for it along with a super bowl. In an espn Chicago poll 7 of 10 respondents thinks he should be fired. Many on twitter yesterday were hoping the Bears would lose so he would be fired, Listen to talk radio in Chicago and you will hear fans calling for his head. You say this is the first year he has been given a reciever but he has always had input in who was drafted. In fact he thought that Devin Hester was a #1 nfl wide reciever. How many teams that make the playoffs yearly have injury problems?I can think of the Packers a couple years ago losing their entire backfield and half of their wide recievers. Injuries happen. Back-ups have to be able to play. I guess you are happy with mediocrity. I would like to see a coach that could be in the playoffs more than 3 times in 9 years.
 
Even the resident "fire Les" man left on the board (me) thinks this is a bit of a stretch trying to find analogy between the two coaching jobs. This is a pretty obvious bait thread :lol:

As for the actual question, rebuilding in the NFL can happen a lot quicker than in the college game, so I don't mind seeing a move being made but I'd like to see the Lovie/Urlacher era take one more shot at it. You'd have to remake too much of the cover 2 defense into a new scheme with a change, so I'd sync it up with the LB change.
 
How many NFL teams have changed coaches and not seen their teams do better than before? You are unrealistic to believe just by hiring a new coach that playoff success is guaranteed. In fact, I could name more teams that were a lot worse off rather than better. And to answer your question about injuries I cannot recall any team that has had success in the playoffs when their top quarterback got injured. And I also do not believe anyone in the Bears organization saw Devin Hester as a wide receiver. Lovie also has less input on draft choices than most coaches. We've seen that he is successful when he has a healthy team.
I want the team to win just as much as you do, I just don't think the team is so bad they need a total overhaul and years of rebuilding, You are free to disagree and I won't resort to insults.
 
Should the Bulls change coaches? They have also underachieved last year in the playoffs and this year.
 
I think Lovey has performed a miracle this year with that terrible offensive line they have. I blame the front office not him. The NFL is won and lost in the trenches. If you give your QB time and holes for your RB you can score. The D is pretty good.
 
I think it's a reasonable question...

Ii have no idea why you'd want to fire Lovie Smith - all he's done just about every year is take the Bears about as far as anyone can take them given unpredictable and unfortunate injuries...

BUT ---
...for those who want to sack Lovie and start all over - just remember that the head coaching spot of THE CHICAGO BEARS is perhaps one of the premier best 2 or 3 spots in the NFL and the Bears ought to be able to get about anyone they want.....
AND YET - when the Bears hired Lovie in 2004 and then every year since if they wanted to go a different direction - they could have hired Jim Harbough, John Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy, Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, or Tom Coughlin - all were available and likely would have jumped at the offer - and yet they chose to pass on all of them...
So you think they very people who missed on all those outstanding coaches is now going to come up with a great choice?? Ha, ha ...wake me if and when that happens...
 
tornado said:
I think it's a reasonable question...

Ii have no idea why you'd want to fire Lovie Smith - all he's done just about every year is take the Bears about as far as anyone can take them given unpredictable and unfortunate injuries...

BUT ---
...for those who want to sack Lovie and start all over - just remember that the head coaching spot of THE CHICAGO BEARS is perhaps one of the premier best 2 or 3 spots in the NFL and the Bears ought to be able to get about anyone they want.....
AND YET - when the Bears hired Lovie in 2004 and then every year since if they wanted to go a different direction - they could have hired Jim Harbough, John Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy, Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, or Tom Coughlin - all were available and likely would have jumped at the offer - and yet they chose to pass on all of them...
So you think they very people who missed on all those outstanding coaches is now going to come up with a great choice?? Ha, ha ...wake me if and when that happens...
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Not necessariy disagreeing with you T but I don't know if all those guys would have jumped at the chance
 
tornado said:
I think it's a reasonable question...

Ii have no idea why you'd want to fire Lovie Smith - all he's done just about every year is take the Bears about as far as anyone can take them given unpredictable and unfortunate injuries...

BUT ---
...for those who want to sack Lovie and start all over - just remember that the head coaching spot of THE CHICAGO BEARS is perhaps one of the premier best 2 or 3 spots in the NFL and the Bears ought to be able to get about anyone they want.....
AND YET - when the Bears hired Lovie in 2004 and then every year since if they wanted to go a different direction - they could have hired Jim Harbough, John Harbaugh, Mike McCarthy, Mike Tomlin, Sean Payton, or Tom Coughlin - all were available and likely would have jumped at the offer - and yet they chose to pass on all of them...
So you think they very people who missed on all those outstanding coaches is now going to come up with a great choice?? Ha, ha ...wake me if and when that happens...
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Nah.. If they fire Lovie, Duh Bears will hold true to form and hire a coach who is a coordinator with no previous head coaching experience. #gladI'mnotabearsfan. ;-)
 
Regardless of what happens on Sunday expect to see Lovie back on the sidelines for the 2013 season. Unless Lovie forces the issue the Bears are too cheap to fire someone whose contract hasn't expired. As long as Lovie is the coach I'd expect Urlacher to be back as well. As much as I've enjoyed it over the years the time to end the Devin Hester Expierence is now. Need to bring in a receiver who can actually run a passing route and then catch the ball. Need offensive lineman who can block both going forward and backwards and more depth on defense. The Bears have certainly showed the ability to beat the teams who are at .500 and below. It's the ability to beat the teams above .500 that remains the question. Also whether Lovie is that guy to lead the Bears also is the question.
 
Lovie is a great defensive coach period, trouble with so many sports teams is they go out and hire great asst. coaches that are either offensive or defensive specialists and it is a crap shoot on whether or not they will be a good head coach,most are not and the Bears have 3 of these type guys on their staff in Marinelli,Tice and Smith.
Smith will not be back if the Bears do not make the playoffs as they gave him more weapons on offense and the offense has been a failure, no doubt the offensive line is not good but the play calling has been bad and he hired Tice so he is directly responsible .
 
tornado said:
none of them had an NFL head coaching job at the time - so they'd have turned it down?
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some might have and others not....many times those guys have places they think would be a better fit for them....so I'm not sure that all assistants will jump at any HC job.....but I understand what you are saying..

Being a Packer fan we have had our share of injuries as well, Matthews,Woodson, Nelson, and several on the offensive line too...

I think the Bears early success was more due to their schedule than anything else. The first 8 games the only team they beat that was decent was Indy and that was the first game of the season....I don't know if they would beat them now.....their schedule got much tougher after game 8
 
I disagree - and in case anyone's completely new to this board - this entire thread was bait to try to get me and Da Coach to say something that could be used to claim we are inconsistent by supporting the BU head coach for no better than 4th...
but... I have always been consistent
 
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