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have more freshmen applicants to BU than in the pre-Les years (due to national exposure from BU Hoops),
Keep up the good work Jimmy! BU basketball's heading in the right direction.
you really think it's due to national exposure from BU hoops?....
I really didn't want to get involved in this thread. I think we've probably had this discussion 10 times over since I've started on this board. It's a great discussion to have, but none the less predictable. As far as JL is concerned among all coaches I'll give him about a 7/10. For BU, I'll give him a 10 out of 10. I love that JL is a BU alum, and takes pride in that. If you look at how short his career really has been in coaching, I think he's progressing really fast, and gets better every year.
I also think a lot of criticisms of him are a little ridiculous, everyone wants bigger players, and point to the MSU's of the world and such. But where are these people going to come from? There is a lot more depth at guard than at forward/center, so JL gets BBall players. I think we're a long way from being able to get these highly touted big men, so we get the ones we can and do what we can with them. I look around at other mid-majors and don't really see anyone with better/more skilled big men than us in the next few years. IMO ODU and oakland didn't have talented ball players, just big bodies, and that's not gonna work in the MVC with the way fouls are called (Part of the reason we have trouble getting big men). The POB's of the world are few and far between, and I think we landed soemone as good in Jordan Prosser.
With that being said, I would like to see us play a larger line up, but can anyone really make a case that this year we should have started 2 F/C's?
I also think a lot of criticisms of him are a little ridiculous, everyone wants bigger players, and point to the MSU's of the world and such. But where are these people going to come from? There is a lot more depth at guard than at forward/center, so JL gets BBall players. I think we're a long way from being able to get these highly touted big men, so we get the ones we can and do what we can with them. I look around at other mid-majors and don't really see anyone with better/more skilled big men than us in the next few years. IMO ODU and oakland didn't have talented ball players, just big bodies, and that's not gonna work in the MVC with the way fouls are called (Part of the reason we have trouble getting big men). The POB's of the world are few and far between, and I think we landed soemone as good in Jordan Prosser.
With that being said, I would like to see us play a larger line up, but can anyone really make a case that this year we should have started 2 F/C's?
I agree on all counts and once WE went down a BIG NO! Next year especially early on NO, also!
JL is the perfect coach for BU! The right coach at the right time and he will take us to the next level and I bet he'll probably not be coaxed into leaving anytime soon once he geta us there. There is something to say about LOYALTY.
Thats not really true, the freshman numbers have been pretty low the last couple years and are WAY down this year. I don't think this has anything at all to do with JL either way tho...
The BU administration has stated that there was a quantifiable increase in applicants after the S16 run. I do think that S16 "bubble effect" is now gone, but in the past 3 years, BU hoops had increased the # of applicants. I suppose this year, BU Hoops increased the # of applicants by 1, but unfortunatley, the NCAA dicd not allow JW to play..
I just saw a report that most private schools applications are down this year due to the economy. The public schools are generally twice as inexpensive even though schools like BU will probably give out more financial aid to make up the difference.
I've never talked about who JL recruits or how big his lineup is. I really don't care. I will trust his judgement for that.
I do think however we should winning a conference or the tourney every now and then....when we do that some(or at least be there at the last day) then the NCAA tourney will take care of itself
mrcoachdude
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"With that being said, I would like to see us play a larger line up, but can anyone really make a case that this year we should have started 2 F/C's?"
We should have had at least two bigger players playing....but when WE went down we really could not....but I would have liked to see
SM
DD
TW
TB
DC
At least that is bigger.....
or
SM
DD
TW
SS
DC
hmmmm
We should have had at least two bigger players playing....but when WE went down we really could not....but I would have liked to see
SM
DD
TW
TB
DC
At least that is bigger.....
or
SM
DD
TW
SS
DC
hmmmm
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southpaw nothin
Guest
Actually, there was an increase in both applicants and quality of applicants (increased selectivity) from 1997-2003. From 2003-2006 there was stagnation. After 2006, though applications rose, enrollment has not reciprocated and as amckillip posted earlier, has been in a decline since 2007 and expected to continue next year.
leebiddlecome
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The situation Bradley is in isn't unique to 2009. Or to Jim Les. Peoria has always been Peoria. BU has always been in the MVC. I dont think anyone expects BU to compete with BCS type schools on a yearly basis.
One beautiful thing about BU hoops is how consistent it has been in many ways. Fans always come. Excitement is always there. The city is still the same. I used to think expectations were higher but maybe that has changed.
One beautiful thing about BU hoops is how consistent it has been in many ways. Fans always come. Excitement is always there. The city is still the same. I used to think expectations were higher but maybe that has changed.
Braves4Life
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Without a doubt.
Oh, I agree completely, and I'd say the increase in number of application ahd far more to do with a booming economy than our Sweet Sicteen run... And I've done analysis projects for the admissions office. I can ASSURE you whoever said it had anything to do with the sweet sixteen run is makign an assumption, because they by NO MEANS have any sort of way to capture that data... Would have made my life a alot easier if they had...
This isn't the article I first saw info from George Mason, but its the first I found on Google. The stats don't lie that a big run in the tournament significantly change applicant numbers.
Excerpt from http://eagle.gmu.edu/newsroom/591/
"Admissions
* Freshmen applications have increased by 20 percent.
* The number and size of campus tours for prospective students and parents nearly tripled.
Alumni Relations
* Mason alumni who registered with the online alumni directory have grown by more than 52 percent.
* There is a 24 percent increase in alumni e-mail addresses now registered on record.
* There is a 25 percent increase in active alumni.
Development/Fundraising
* Mason received more than $23.2 million in new gifts and pledge payments compared to $19.6 million the previous year.
* Donations to athletic programs increased by 25 percent.
* General scholarship support nearly tripled.
* Unrestricted gifts to the university increased by nearly 45 percent."
After a bunch of google searches the best data for BU i could come up with was 2006 had 4300 applicants and 2007 had 4600. Not sure what the previous years were. Both years had 83% acceptance rates.
Braves4Life
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Thanks for the help BUBalum05 . I'm simply reporting info I heard second hand from someone in-the-know at BU (at that time). Your facts help keep the egg off my face 
. I'm simply reporting info I heard second hand from someone in-the-know at BU (at that time). Your facts help keep the egg off my face I'm thinking, Always play 2 bigs. Why can't the staff teach each big man 2 or 3 offensive sets. Execute those sets to perfection. Let the guards add a few variations and substitute like mad.
(So you end up with a bunch of variation, just do not ask each big attempt to do too much) Also, A new big can learn one D (man or a specific zone type), experienced 2. Swap bigs when you want to swap strategy. (I think weask too much from a big so they usually not in the best position to succeed)