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Replacing Will...

Braves4Life said:
He may start against MSU (out of necessity as size is needed). If he does I predict he will foul out rather quickly, and this will be the last game that he starts. JL will have no choice but to play small ball the rest of the way and hope his team is more athletic than anyone in the MVC..... And I think we are :)
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Come on B4L, you got us on a sinking ship here and I don't think thats anywhere near the case. It's funny how some people were calling for JL to play big and that we couldn't win going small (Just a week ago). They must of based this on just one player who we had not seen play until last Tuesday. Now he's gone and our only chance to win is go small. :roll::?
Not me as I was one of them who called for us to go big and I am still staying with it:!:
DC 7' 242 OK sit him
SS 6'9 240 OK sit him
AT 6'10 211 OK leave him sit
TB 6'6 205 play him
We will be alright because there are no big 5's in the MVC or for that matter on any team we will play. Maybe we can get TW to work a little bit harder on the boards. I'm just having fun here as I know we are after the same thing BU Wins:biggrin:
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
Yes...

Please lets find a silver lining here somewhere...
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SLB22, in trying to find the silver lining, lets start all over. Tell us again just how you feel about DC's play last night or for that matter up until now for the season. JK :-P:-P:lol::lol: I agree with you and share your frustration with him and his play but I still think he can be of some help to this team.
 
BradleyBrave said:
TB is not a 3. He's a 4.
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TB is a natural 3. He can shoot the 3, drive and hit the boards. He's only 6'6" at the most. Since when is a 6'6" guy a 4. Just because TW plays the 4 does not make him a 4. A 4 should be able to play D on the 5. I'd never have TB or TW do that. These guys are under sized, strength and weight to handle a 5 appropriately and we would be putting undo stress physically on them. JL will not play TB at the 5 or for that matter TW. We will see SS and DC and hopefully AT will be able to contribute in the near future. I would be more then shock if someone other then one of our bigs start.
 
SanFranciscoPete said:
TB is a natural 3. He can shoot the 3, drive and hit the boards. He's only 6'6" at the most. Since when is a 6'6" guy a 4. Just because TW plays the 4 does not make him a 4. A 4 should be able to play D on the 5. I'd never have TB or TW do that. These guys are under sized, strength and weight to handle a 5 appropriately and we would be putting undo stress physically on them. JL will not play TB at the 5 or for that matter TW. We will see SS and DC and hopefully AT will be able to contribute in the near future. I would be more then shock if someone other then one of our bigs start.
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Neither is really a 4 SFP....they just play a 4 in our system because thats how our system works.
 
SanFranciscoPete said:
TB is a natural 3. He can shoot the 3, drive and hit the boards. He's only 6'6" at the most. Since when is a 6'6" guy a 4? Just because TW plays the 4 does not make him a 4. A 4 should be able to play D on the 5. I'd never have TB or TW do that. These guys are under sized, strength and weight to handle a 5 appropriately and we would be putting undo stress physically on them. JL will not play TB at the 5 or for that matter TW. We will see SS and DC and hopefully AT will be able to contribute in the near future. I would be more then shock if someone other then one of our bigs start.
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In the Valley...you will see a lot of guys 6'6" or smaller playing at the 4...
Just take a look around...

Who plays the 4 for Creighton? I guess it is Justin Carter...He's 6'4" 200 lbs.
Who plays the 4 for Evansville? Nate Garner, I suppose...He's 6'5" 220 lbs.
Who starts as the 4 for Illinois State? Champ Oguchi, I guess...He's 6'6" 198 lbs., but he plays nowhere near the post...as they basically start 4 guards and a forward every night...
Who starts as the 4 for Missouri State? Weems or Cooks, I guess...They are 6'4" 210 lbs. and 6'6" 210lbs., respectively...
Wichita State has Ramon Clemente at the 4. He's 6'6" 230 lbs.

The only schools in the conference that play someone at the 4 that is a couple inches taller than Theron or Taylor Brown are the following:

UNI has Adam Koch at the 4...He's 6'8" 245 lbs.
SIU has Carlton Fay at the 4...He's 6'8" 235 lbs...although he spends a lot of time out on the perimeter...
Indiana State has Jay Tunnell at the 4...he's 6'8" 255 lbs.
Drake has Bucky Cox at the 4...He's 6'8" 225 lbs...but he plays out on the perimeter in their offense quite a bit.
 
Out of Bounce said:
SLB22, in trying to find the silver lining, lets start all over. Tell us again just how you feel about DC's play last night or for that matter up until now for the season. JK :-P:-P:lol::lol: I agree with you and share your frustration with him and his play but I still think he can be of some help to this team.
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Yeah, I am somehow thinking that everyone knows how I feel there OOB...

Glad to hear AT is gonna get some PT now....just wish it wasn't at the expense of Will being out for the season :cry:
 
Call me crazy, but at this point in time I view WE's loss as a bigger one than AW. We have enough capable guards and swing players who've shown they're more than capable of picking up the slack (back to back 80 point performances). WE was the first capable post player on both ends we've had since Zach Andrews, and arguably since POB. I would like to believe that the combination of DC/SS/AT can/will keep defenses honest and be able to defend the post, but I am not overly optimistic at this point.
 
I have no confidence in DC on defense as he plays and moves like he is in quicksand , I know he can score points but he gives up a lot more points then he gets and does not give us any help-side defense around the basket because of his slow reactions.
 
here is my question... Was DC in JL's doghouse before WE got hurt? It did not look like he was going to play before the injury
 
Dog house or not it may have been that he was way down in the depth chart. JL seems to only go 2 deep at the 5 and with SS playing formidable minutes and WE doing his thing, DC became the man out.
 
Just my humble opinion......Will had improved greatly in the offseason....he was to be the opening starter till something happened to change it.......after sitting out he was allowed to prove himself and did fine...DC was Will's replacement till he was ready to play and now will be his replacement and will do just fine with SS and AT getting a few more minutes...

all will be fine...... :)
 
To bad Will went down. Now it looks like this is going to be our weakest position by far. I predict SS will get 20-25minutes provided he doesn't get into foul trrouble. Sam has been real good this year and was going to get 15-20 minutes if WE stayed healthy. The other 15-20 minutes will be split between DC and AT. I suspect DC will get next crack and if he struggles we go to AT. If AT struggles we will be in trouble. Les may move TW over to the 5 position for short periods of time against certian teams. On average I bet SS gets 22 minutes, DC 11 and AT 7.
This will be our week spot for sure but lets hope AT grows into the job and starts demanding more minutes like Will did. We get AW back and we are going to be hard to beat even with the problem at the 5 slot.
Go Braves!
 
BradleyBrave said:
Call me crazy, but at this point in time I view WE's loss as a bigger one than AW. We have enough capable guards and swing players who've shown they're more than capable of picking up the slack (back to back 80 point performances). WE was the first capable post player on both ends we've had since Zach Andrews, and arguably since POB. I would like to believe that the combination of DC/SS/AT can/will keep defenses honest and be able to defend the post, but I am not overly optimistic at this point.
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Totally agree with you here. Never would have thought this 2 weeks ago. We have plenty of guards to pick up the slack of AW. Sam, Dodie, Roberts, Norris, and Taylor have all proven they can contribute. When will it be DC, SS, or AT turn to shine??
 
real fan said:
I have no confidence in DC on defense as he plays and moves like he is in quicksand , I know he can score points but he gives up a lot more points then he gets and does not give us any help-side defense around the basket because of his slow reactions.
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Braves4Life said:
I prefer the analogy of prison shackles...... :lol:
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Quicksand, real fan:!: Prison Shackles, B4L:!: Whats next, Concrete Tennis Shoes and Louisiana Shuffle:razz::lol:
 
TheHeemyMonster said:
Totally agree with you here. Never would have thought this 2 weeks ago. We have plenty of guards to pick up the slack of AW. Sam, Dodie, Roberts, Norris, and Taylor have all proven they can contribute. When will it be DC, SS, or AT turn to shine??
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SS had a couple real good games. As for them shining, I would be happy with some good D and putting a body on someone and putting anyone coming down the lane on their butt. Theres 15 fouls there to give, guard the **** lane, put them on their butts with good clean fouls and they will think twice maybe before their try again. Fight for postion and rebound:-x
 
Out of Bounce said:
SS had a couple real good games. As for them shining, I would be happy with some good D and putting a body on someone and putting anyone coming down the lane on their butt. Theres 15 fouls there to give, guard the **** lane, put them on their butts with good clean fouls and they will think twice maybe before their try again. Fight for postion and rebound:-x
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You would think that it's that easy!!! Plus stick around for more then a second to give a legal screen.:idea:
 
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