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Ruffin out?

He didn't say all fans feel that way about the players, he said "many" and he is right.
If you are one who doesn't care much for the players other than what they can do for you, then you are not included in his "many".

and please BraveE, don't come on here masquerading as a Bradley fan and take slams at the people on BradleyFans.
 
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I am very sorry to hear this report about a player who has so much promise. We do need to keep our standards high for all sport players.
 
tornado said:
He didn't say all fans feel that way about the players, he said "many" and he is right.
If you are one who doesn't care much for the players other than what they can do for you, then you are not included in his "many".
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How can fans care about players like they are family if they dont know them? I dont know any of the players personally. I cheer for them because the play basketball for my alma mada. How can you treat a stranger like he is one of your kids? On that note if I got arrested for something like this my parents might leave me in jail for a while.
 
If he was my kid I'd get him out of jail, ask him what really happened, get him the best lawyer possible and then hug him. There is no indication that he is a bad person, just that he made a monumental mistake. If he did do the crime he will pay for it and if for some reason he is not guilty he is still going to pay.
 
Although the timestamp still says 11:22am, it appears the story has been updated on pjstar.com, as a couple other times are mentioned. I may have missed these details when I originally read it, but I think they changed or updated the story that they had posted earlier.


Posted on 02/23 at 11:22 AM

PEORIA ??” Bradley University senior basketball player Daniel Ruffin was arrested before dawn this morning on a charge of domestic battery, prompting his suspension from the team for an indefinite period, according to police and the university??™s athletic department.
The Journal Star learned Ruffin, 23, was arrested at 5:30 a.m. on a misdemeanor charge of domestic battery and, through midday, remained at Peoria County Jail with bond still not set.
Details of the actions that led to his arrest remained unavailable this afternoon from city police, who referred inqueries to the university.
Police, however, were called at about 3:20 a.m.to Ruffin??™s apartment at 908 Frink St. and talked there to a 20-year-old woman before taking Ruffin into custody, police said. The incident that prompted the call took place about 2:30 a.m., police said.
The alleged victim was taken to a local hospital for treatment of injuries, police said, but further details were unavailable from those hospitals.
The status of Ruffin??™s availibility to play in future Bradley games this season will be based on a review of his arrest and the alleged incident, the university said.
???With high expectations of our student-athletes, this situation is extremely disappointing news to all,??? Bradley athletics director Ken Kavanagh said.

Read more about this story in Sunday??™s Journal Star.
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Lakeview Brave said:
Fans do not owe the players the same level of support they would give thier own family. 99% of the people on here dont know Daniel Ruffin at all or anything about him other than he is good at basketball and to this point stayed out of public trouble. If we wasnt on the basketball team but just a regular student how much support would he get? Also he is 23 and a college graduate he is not a kid by any standard.
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I don't think you can determine how other fans react to this situation. IMO, you are in the monrity here. And please don't act like you have some kind of moral high ground. It is possible to support someone who is accused of a crime without being evil, or misguided.

I don't doubt for a second that if Daniel was introduced tonight, or on Tuesday at Senior Night, that he would receive a rousing ovation of support. Do you disagree? That's not to say that any fans condone the activity he is being accused of, but that fans support the players and don't abandon them.
 
Also, if they were called there at 3:20am and he was arrested at 5:30am, is it normal procedure for the investigation to take over 2 hours before he was arrested? I would think if the female had injuries that warranted going to the hospital, they would've arrested him sooner than 2 hours after they got there. There is obviously more to the story that will be coming out...let's just hope and pray that, as unlikely as it may seem, good news will come out in the details.
 
Da Coach said:
I don't doubt for a second that if Daniel was introduced tonight, or on Tuesday at Senior Night, that he would receive a rousing ovation of support. Do you disagree? That's not to say that any fans condone the activity he is being accused of, but that fans support the players and don't abandon them.
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Quoted for truth. Through all the troubles that certain BU players have gotten themselves into over the years, I still have yet to hear a Carver crowd boo any of them (at least not for their actions off the court anyways).
 
SpfldBUAlum said:
IF the allegations prove to be enough to remove him from the team there is no way he should be allowed at Senior night. It just allows for people like Wessler to criticize the university for being easy on him. I know I thought it was inappropriate for Illinois to allow Jamar Smith to be on the bench after seriously injuring one of his teamates.
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While I would have NO problem at all standing and cheering for DR Tuesday night for all he has accomplished and provided to Bradley University, I do have to agree that if he is indeed "removed" from the team then he should not take part in Senior night. That's just my opinion. However, I believe he will remain "suspended indefinitely" and not "removed", at least through Tuesday night.
 
The senior night situation is a real dilemma... My personal opinion is that Ruff should not participate. I understand that Ruff is innocent until proven guilty, but I think that in this situation, Ruff should think of his teammates and university and not create a distraction and media frenzy by making a public appearance for senior night. I think the appropiate thing for Ruff to do if he decides to do something for senior night is to work something out with his lawyer and issue a written statement to the media.
 
Da Coach said:
I don't doubt for a second that if Daniel was introduced tonight, or on Tuesday at Senior Night, that he would receive a rousing ovation of support. Do you disagree? That's not to say that any fans condone the activity he is being accused of, but that fans support the players and don't abandon them.
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So, let me get this straight...If Ruff is, hypothetically, found guilty of these charges that he has against him right now...(which include battering a woman with his hands and feet)...You are going to give him a rousing standing ovation?
 
Da Coach said:
I don't think you can determine how other fans react to this situation. IMO, you are in the monrity here. And please don't act like you have some kind of moral high ground. It is possible to support someone who is accused of a crime without being evil, or misguided.

I don't doubt for a second that if Daniel was introduced tonight, or on Tuesday at Senior Night, that he would receive a rousing ovation of support. Do you disagree? That's not to say that any fans condone the activity he is being accused of, but that fans support the players and don't abandon them.
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I dont think we disagree here, i do think he would get cheered and support but not the same level of support parents would give thier kids. Why do you think the fans would cheer Daniel? Seriously, would they cheer because the know him as a person and care about his well being or would they cheer because of all the great things he has done for Bradley and because he gives our current team a better chance to win? I dont think im in the minority when I say I dont know any of the players personally. I would say most fans know these players as well as they know proffesional players they cheer for. How many fans are even on a first name basis with any of the players? Statements from MOST poster like "this doesnt sound like Daniel" are only based on the fact that he doesnt have a history of problems or getting into trouble not based on really being friends with him or part of his family right?
 
ER3 said:
So, let me get this straight...If Ruff is, hypothetically, found guilty of these charges that he has against him right now...(which include battering a woman with his hands and feet)...You are going to give him a rousing standing ovation?
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First of all, Ruffin has not been found guilty of anything, and at tonight's game and at Tuesday night's game he will not have been convicted of anything. So, yes, I would show him my support.

But if you read what I said, it has nothing to do with what I would do.
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I don't doubt for a second that if Daniel was introduced tonight, or on Tuesday at Senior Night, that he would receive a rousing ovation of support. Do you disagree?

Do you disagree? I guarantee DR will get a rousing ovation if he is at either of the 2 remaining home games as the fans will show him their support.

But if Ruffin or any player is found guilty of a crime, they would be dismissed and they would no longer be a part of the team, so of course there would be no ovation.
 
I know for one thing, the PD was never called to 908 Frink. She must have left and called from the hospital. The City PD then went to Ruffs Apt about 5:15am and arrested him. The city is the primary report writer on this, if it happened at Ruffs Apt then BUPD would be primary but they are not. Not sure where they got that info about 3:20am from.



RedSeaRamblin07 said:
Also, if they were called there at 3:20am and he was arrested at 5:30am, is it normal procedure for the investigation to take over 2 hours before he was arrested? I would think if the female had injuries that warranted going to the hospital, they would've arrested him sooner than 2 hours after they got there. There is obviously more to the story that will be coming out...let's just hope and pray that, as unlikely as it may seem, good news will come out in the details.
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I'm having mixed feelings about this thing. I don't believe people should be punished when they have not been found guilty of anything... It's sort of one of the things that this country is founded on. These kinds of cases are volatile, I suppose, but if we recall what happened with the Duke LaCrosse team, overreacting can definately cause us to make the wrong decisions. If there is going to be a protracted legal battle, then I will continue to support Daniel Ruffin, and I also think that if his innocense is unknown yet, I believe he should be allowed to play (unless the team knows something).

Ruffin's history at Bradley gives us no reason to think him guilty of anything, as far as I know, so until I know more, I will reserve any sort of judgement.
 
I think there would be many "boo's" if Ruff were announced on senior night, and it would take away from the JC, MS celebration

If the team wanted to do anything, they should announce his parents before the game (when the team is in the locker)
Like the Jamar situation, fans would be widely uncomfortable seeing Ruffin laughing with his teamates so soon given the seriousness of the charges..
 
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