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Sparkman

midstateknowitall said:
I hope it works out for BU and Im sure Nate is a great kid. I just didn't like the move at all. Especially when you have someone like Bielfeldt (especially) in your immediate area.
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I bet that JL would have offered him a scholarship if he wanted one from us. He wants to leave town and can you blame him? (this is not a dig on Peoria) What 18 year old kid when given a chance wants to stay so close to home?
 
Dan Ruffin, Jordan Prosser, Jeremy Crouch, Dyricus Simms-Edwards:


Dodie Dunson Transfered Back
Marcellus Summerville Transfered Back


"They won't stay if you don't offer!"
 
midstateknowitall said:
Dan Ruffin, Jordan Prosser, Jeremy Crouch, Dyricus Simms-Edwards:


Dodie Dunson Transfered Back
Marcellus Summerville Transfered Back


"They won't stay if you don't offer!"
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Let's leave the transfers out! Did those other guys have legitimate better offers? Max maybe getting better offers then they did and has the some options that the other did not. I'm not saying that BU can't recruit local kids but in reality there are some draw backs.
 
You can say the same about a player leaving the area as well. There is pro's and con's to college decision.

You can't win if you don't play!
(So if you don't offer a kid your not going to get him)

They aren't even giving themselves a chance because they didn't offer and have no room to offer now...

Thats why it bugs me so much!
 
midstateknowitall said:
Da Coach:

I understand where your coming from. However you telling me that Jordan Prosser is a 3 or 4 star player? Becasue thats what they had him on the Scouting Services. I would take Beilfeldt right now over Prosser. Way more polished and better player.

Im telling you PIPER, BIELFELDT, SPARKMAN, KENNEDY are all extremely more polished than Nate Wells. And all are more productive than him right now. Bring Nate Wells to Illinois and see how he does against them. 7'1 in high school good or not you should be averaging a double double... Hell I know guards that do that in Central Illinois.

Blumenshine is the only big on that list that does not have a D1 or D2 offer. Kennedy committed and signed early because he was happy with going to Quincy. He would of had some low D1 offers if he had waited it out. Back to Blumenshine: he isn't a great offensive player however respectable but is a load defensively and rebounding. Anyone that saw the PND vs St. Ignatius game can say he did a great job on big NANA EGWU (Illinois Commit).

Hell, Bradley has never used their bigs as a scoring option anyway... just high ball screens and to defend right....

IMO Bradley should be top 3 in the Valley every year. Because of the New Facilities, How the community supports the teams (especially mens basketball), Location to Chicago, Indianapolis, St. Louis. And because its in one of the top 3 states of producing of basketball players.


I just feel like every year Bradley talks about who they have coming in and what potential and difference makers they are going to be and it never pans out. Why go to Iowa when you can recruit IL and get a player thats just as good or better?

Maybe Im way wrong in my understanding of talent and what it takes to play at Bradley.
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I have gotten curious about this debate on this thread so I decided to research some game video on Bielfeldt. Based on what I have seen, there is absolutely NO WAY that I take Bielfeldt over JP. Bielfeldt is a mid-major type of player who plays below the rim and looks to be slow. I would need to see him in person to see how quick Bielfeldt is but I can see why the larger schools are passing on Max.
 
midstateknowitall said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtxGI8Ie3fE&feature=related

Thats a highlight clip from PND game vs Richwoods last year... Max has lost about 15lbs since and add more range, mobility, and atheticism since then. Doesn't look like he is a below the rim player to me. As long as the ball goes in the hoop im ok with it. PRODUCTION!!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQcjZE9fRqc

Here is a little clip on Blumenshine as well
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I saw this video before I made my previous post. Look at the size of the players that Max is going against. He is a 6'8? player with a wide body going against smaller competition. I would expect him to dominate and a lot of his moves in this video are below the rim with the exception of an uncontested dunk or two.
 
midstateknowitall said:
You can say the same about a player leaving the area as well. There is pro's and con's to college decision.

You can't win if you don't play!
(So if you don't offer a kid your not going to get him)

They aren't even giving themselves a chance because they didn't offer and have no room to offer now...

Thats why it bugs me so much!
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From what I understand MAX told BU quite awhile ago he was not interested in playing in Peoria, unless you have talked to him about this quit making statements that BU in not interested, he was the one not interested.
 
Max Bielfeldt does not want to play in Peoria.

Why is this difficult to understand?

Seriously... someone answer that question.
 
midstateknowitall said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtxGI8Ie3fE&feature=related

Thats a highlight clip from PND game vs Richwoods last year... Max has lost about 15lbs since and add more range, mobility, and atheticism since then. Doesn't look like he is a below the rim player to me. As long as the ball goes in the hoop im ok with it. PRODUCTION!!!!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQcjZE9fRqc

Here is a little clip on Blumenshine as well
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Lets put this Biefeldt thing to rest.
Eddie Mathews, the coach at Notre Dame, and Jim Les have a friendly relationship.
Jim Les's son played with Max at Notrer Dame.
Max's grandfather, while giving a ton of money to The Illini, his alma mater, also donated several million to Bradley.
If Max had any desire to be a Brave, he would have recived an offer.
He does not.
He really wants to be an ILLINI!
Case closed
 
I know Max personally and I can guarantee you he will not go to Bradley, nor U of I. Max wants to make a name for himself and I assume that he is out there trying to prove something to people.
 
nothing against you open minded...but I always remain skeptical about things like kids' decisions...

someone posted on another board there was absolutely zero chance that Donivine Stewart would end up at Bradley..
 
Grassman said:
Lets put this Biefeldt thing to rest.
Eddie Mathews, the coach at Notre Dame, and Jim Les have a friendly relationship.
Jim Les's son played with Max at Notrer Dame.
Max's grandfather, while giving a ton of money to The Illini, his alma mater, also donated several million to Bradley.
If Max had any desire to be a Brave, he would have recived an offer.
He does not.
He really wants to be an ILLINI!
Case closed
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I agree 100% with this , why do people not understand that a player does not wish to play in his home town, this happens a lot and is the main reason why it is harder to recruit local players, I hope Max gets to play wherever he wishes because he appears to have really worked hard in order to achieve his goal.
 
BUFanatic said:
Just thought I'd let everyone know, Dylan Sparkman again posted a 20+ point game last night. 23 points. Him and Kelch combined for 46. Hmmmmmmm, and BU recruited a guy that's 7 foot that averages how many ppg again? hmmmm
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East Peoria's Dylan Sparkman committed to University of Illinois-Springfield and first year coach Ben Wierzba yesterday.

Did every D1 coach miss out?
 
Da Coach said:
East Peoria's Dylan Sparkman committed to University of Illinois-Springfield and first year coach Ben Wierzba yesterday.

Did every D1 coach miss out?
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This is a great decision by Dylan. He can be a star at the D-II level, whereas I believe he would have been an average player at the low D-I level, and a 4-year backup at the mid-major level.

However, if he really excels at the D-II level, there is no reason he couldn't make the move to a D-I school after a year or two...it is not totally uncommon to see that type of move.
 
PTownHawkeye said:
..no reason he couldn't make the move to a D-I school after a year or two...it is not totally uncommon to see that type of move.
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Ptown...don't take this wrong..but I cannot recall a single kid of any significance who went from D-II to D-I...can you name one?

Lots will go from juco to D-I and lots go from D-I to D-II...
..and some, like Marcus Arnold, will jump from a lower D-I level to a higher level thinking their talent is too great to waste at a mid-major..

I think the reason is that no matter how good a D-II or a D-III kid is -- he's not likely to be such an impact at D-I that it would be worth the transfer and sitting out a full year ...

The only basketball player I can think of was Kobby Acquah (who you may have never heard of) who transferred from Clark (Atlanta) to SIU but...
..it turned out to be kind of a waste of his time playing basketball at SIU as in the year he was there, the 7-footer played only a handful of minutes in just 8 games...
scoring a grand total of one basket and two pints at the D-I level.
http://siusalukis.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/mtt/acquah_kobby00.html

UNI's Matt Schneiderman was also at a D-II first but he left there when the program disintegrated and everyone from the coach on down also left and went elsewhere, and their program shut down and re-emerged as an NAIA....so I really can't fine an example of a kid who jumped from D-II to D-I because he was good enough to make the move.
 
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PTownHawkeye said:
This is a great decision by Dylan. He can be a star at the D-II level, whereas I believe he would have been an average player at the low D-I level, and a 4-year backup at the mid-major level.

However, if he really excels at the D-II level, there is no reason he couldn't make the move to a D-I school after a year or two...it is not totally uncommon to see that type of move.
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+1, I believe he considered juco, btw.
 
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