Still no word on a new AD

[it's boogie time]

is there any evidence that anyone is suffering because of the current situation?

So we are suppose to wait until we see problems before we become concerned? Interesting.

I don't pretend to know anything about the inner workings of an athletic program, but I'm assuming that both KK & VHB had a full plate of responsibilities when they worked together. I don't think it is too much of a stretch to say that one person can not do the work effectively previously done by two.

 

[Da Coach]

So we are suppose to wait until we see problems before we become concerned? Interesting.

No, but I don't think it's realistic to presume there are problems, when there is no evidence of that, or to panic about a situation that we don't even know exists.

It is not the same as if we did not have an AD at all. VHB is a highly capable person.

 

[it's boogie time]

I don't doubt that VHB can do the job. Who is doing her old job then? It sounds like it must have been important since we think it prepared her to be the head of the department.

 

[wizard1]

New AD

New AD

Coach ---I usually don't take issue with you since you are very wise and generally right, however I have to question your logic on this one. In my opinion, the best time to conduct a search and hire a new AD is in the summer. Think about it---Once school starts the window starts closing for good candidates. Students return and the level of activity heats up. Fall sports start up and BB practice begins in Oct. Members of the athletic dept have a reduced teaching load in the summer but this ends when school starts so there is less manpower available to handle the workload. Big preseason BB events which require much planning and management direction are conducted and we will have a new building to open very soon not to mention the ongoing pressing need for athletic fund raising which is super important for BU.
In effect, while we may have been able to relax a little during the Summer, things really change when school starts.
In my judgement, the search and hiring of the new AD should have been done by now UNLESS the PRES. has already made a deal and hired someone who will be in place very soon. If this has happened, then the timing is probably OK.

 

[Da Coach]

Wizard- I don't disagree with you. I would like to see a search started, and get the matter settled as soon as possible. All I am saying is that the situation is not chaotic or desperate, and that the athletic department is in good hands for now.

 

[Out of Balance]

No, but I don't think it's realistic to presume there are problems, when there is no evidence of that, or to panic about a situation that we don't even know exists.

It is not the same as if we did not have an AD at all. VHB is a highly capable person.

Realistic:!: OK:!: Realistic:!:
The Prez runs off one of the best AD in the profession despite his plea to stay:!:
She either had NO plan in hand for a replacement or the plan failed or it's a control thing.
There has been NO search for a replacement or there has been No announcement of one.
A young assistant has been put in as acting AD of a mid-major college and NO one has filled her position.
With school starting soon, there is NO AD and at this point all good AD's are under contract and not wanting to make a move at this point (for a lot of reasons) or go through the pain of asking to be released from the school:!:

At this point, insiders and outsiders (that I am, just a fan) would have to ask why a prez would run off a qualified AD with a resume that most can't compete with:!: As for VHB, I'm not sure about her resume and if she has been a AD at any level. Bradley is a mid-major college and one would think it would hire the best seasoned and qualified AD they can find. This is in NO way a knock on VHB:!: Just the correct and professional way it is done :!:

This type of management has to be questioned and is:!:

 

[leebiddlecome]

Wizard- I don't disagree with you. I would like to see a search started, and get the matter settled as soon as possible. All I am saying is that the situation is not chaotic or desperate, and that the athletic department is in good hands for now.

Agreed. No need to rush. The coaches are all in place. The facilities are being built. Things are fine.

Im not downplaying the role of AD right now but the program has a lot of capable people willing to run their own "ships". All the AD needs to do is oversee that and I'm sure that is getting done.

Jim DeRose doesn't need a lot of direction. Jim Les doesn't need a lot of direction. The SID staff doesn't need a lot of direction. Etc, etc. Just let those coaches/people run their own departments the best they can. No need to have a micromanager there.

 

[Da Coach]

A young assistant has been put in as acting AD of a mid-major college

Just for the record- Virnette is no novice. She is about the same age, 44, that Ken Kavanagh (45) was when he was named Athletic Director at Bradley in 1996, and her experience level is comparable or higher than Ken's was. Ken had been an assistant AD at Bowling Green for 9 years before getting the Bradley job. Virnette has been an assistant AD at Bradley for 13 years, and she had worked 1 year as an Assistant AD at Bowling Green before coming to Bradley.

 

[QPS]

At Bradley, interim administrators are charged with keeping the ship on course but they do not make any significant changes. There is an all university conference the week before school starts. If President Glasser has something to say about the AD position, I would expect her to announce it at that time.

 

[Out of Balance]

Just for the record- Virnette is no novice. She is about the same age, 44, that Ken Kavanagh (45) was when he was named Athletic Director at Bradley in 1996, and her experience level is comparable or higher than Ken's was. Ken had been an assistant AD at Bowling Green for 9 years before getting the Bradley job. Virnette has been an assistant AD at Bradley for 13 years, and she had worked 1 year as an Assistant AD at Bowling Green before coming to Bradley.

Well she looks young;-) I can't help it Ken looked older:lol: Sounds like your campaigning:lol:
Just do a search, if she stands above the others than offer her the job:!:

 

[squirrelgotdead]

Agreed. No need to rush. The coaches are all in place. The facilities are being built. Things are fine.

Im not downplaying the role of AD right now but the program has a lot of capable people willing to run their own "ships". All the AD needs to do is oversee that and I'm sure that is getting done.

Jim DeRose doesn't need a lot of direction. Jim Les doesn't need a lot of direction. The SID staff doesn't need a lot of direction. Etc, etc. Just let those coaches/people run their own departments the best they can. No need to have a micromanager there.

Exactly. Things are fine. Except for the sky falling

At any rate, I think either a decision has been made and we're just waiting on an announcement, or we're going to do a full national search and hope to wow them with the new athletics building when it's complete.

 

[Braves4Life]

Agreed. No need to rush. The coaches are all in place. The facilities are being built. Things are fine.

Im not downplaying the role of AD right now but the program has a lot of capable people willing to run their own "ships". All the AD needs to do is oversee that and I'm sure that is getting done.

Jim DeRose doesn't need a lot of direction. Jim Les doesn't need a lot of direction. The SID staff doesn't need a lot of direction. Etc, etc. Just let those coaches/people run their own departments the best they can. No need to have a micromanager there.

Exactly. Things are fine. Except for the sky falling

At any rate, I think either a decision has been made and we're just waiting on an announcement, or we're going to do a full national search and hope to wow them with the new athletics building when it's complete.

Ahhh. There ya go

 

[houstontxbrave]

I am way away from this entire ordeal but there is no way, no how, it can or should or does take over 4 months to put together a search or a committee.

I sincerely believe she is either waiting for the AD at EKU to have his contract expire there or she has someone else who she wants but must wait for their situation to clear. A small % of me is thinking she is wanting to see how Virnette does as interim before Glasser decides to make her the perminate AD.

But as she did with the baseball coach hire you can guarantee she is the only and absolute decision maker regarding who the AD will be.

 

[Out of Balance]

Exactly. Things are fine. Except for the sky falling

At any rate, I think either a decision has been made and we're just waiting on an announcement, or we're going to do a full national search and hope to wow them with the new athletics building when it's complete.

Ha friend, help me out here. Are you saying the BU's AD position isn't that appealing in itself, that it will take a new office and athletic building for BU to land a good qualified AD:doubt: They can't see what's being built or read a blue print? Also BU being a mid-major in the MVC and BU athletics with all it's tradition and success cannot stand on center stage:doubt: I always have been under the impression that it was the potential employee who had to do the impressing:? I know things have changed but that was the way it was when I applied for a position or when I hired employee's?
The long wait to start a search and the building thing, WELL, it, it,it just seems upside down:!::?

 

[shaunguth]

Glasser is killing this institution one day at a time, like lethal injection. Shaunguth is a pollyanna for thinking that this has no effect. If BU Athletics were a stock, we'd be akin to GM or Chrysler. We are not on the way up in either basketballs and baseball is in the toilet too. Only soccer and softball are representing. I am not satisfied with going to the third and fourth tier postseason.

I was under the impression the basketball and baseball programs are both on the upswing and expected to produce very good products. Just curious as to how many days of "lethal injection" it will take to "kill" Bradley University? I guess I'll be surprised when that day occurs.

 

[Da Coach]

From what I have heard, there hasn't been any advertising for the AD position, yet. But I have heard they have already received inquiries and even applications and CV's from interested parties. And some are highly respected, qualified, and well known individuals.

So from that I think I can deduce that the Bradley AD job is a very desirable one, and will draw some outstanding applicants.

 

[squirrelgotdead]

Not at all what I am saying.

I get that people don't see it the way I do, and that's fine.

Two problems have traditionally plagued positions in the BU ath. dept. over the years: funding and facilities.

I believe a good number of things under both umbrellas have been addressed.

I just feel that it is entirely within the realm of possibility that BU can overachieve with this search. We are making sure we can both impress and secure the big hire. That could require spending more money and being able to tangibly "feel" the new facilities. That is my reason for optimism.

A piece of paper while standing in the mud, while it shows great vision, doesn't set a very good impression. JMO.

It's not a slight at Bradley at all. It is commendation in hopes that is how they are proceeding.

 

[Out of Balance]

Not at all what I am saying.

I get that people don't see it the way I do, and that's fine.

Two problems have traditionally plagued positions in the BU ath. dept. over the years: funding and facilities.

I believe a good number of things under both umbrellas have been addressed.

I just feel that it is entirely within the realm of possibility that BU can overachieve with this search. We are making sure we can both impress and secure the big hire. That could require spending more money and being able to tangibly "feel" the new facilities. That is my reason for optimism.

A piece of paper while standing in the mud, while it shows great vision, doesn't set a very good impression. JMO.

It's not a slight at Bradley at all. It is commendation in hopes that is how they are proceeding.

:lol::lol::lol: OK :!: But if the person doe's not want to get him/herself dirty, than do we really want them anyway:doubt::roll: Thanks

 

[squirrelgotdead]

That's fine. As I said, I get that I'm in the minority.

I just happen to feel that I believe BU is positioning itself here to put together a compensation package that will cause none to balk, or perhaps even lure someone in that otherwise would have no reason to be interested.

 

[BradleyBrave]

Not at all what I am saying.

I get that people don't see it the way I do, and that's fine.

Two problems have traditionally plagued positions in the BU ath. dept. over the years: funding and facilities.

I believe a good number of things under both umbrellas have been addressed.

I just feel that it is entirely within the realm of possibility that BU can overachieve with this search. We are making sure we can both impress and secure the big hire. That could require spending more money and being able to tangibly "feel" the new facilities. That is my reason for optimism.

A piece of paper while standing in the mud, while it shows great vision, doesn't set a very good impression. JMO.

It's not a slight at Bradley at all. It is commendation in hopes that is how they are proceeding.

I hope you're right. If they are planning to go 'bigger and better' than they have before, then I am all for it. Unfortunately I have seen nothing to support that. BU has no obligation to keep people like me in the loop, but every once in a while it would be nice.