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Top High School Junior Skips Senior HS year and Goes to Play in Europe

tornado

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advancing a trend started by Brandon Jennings last year, who went to Europe instead of going to college, now
one of the top Class of 2010 players (presently a junior) has pulled out of high school, and plans to go to Europe to play professionally.

Jeremy Tyler, 6-foot-11 high school junior whom some consider the best American big man since Greg Oden,
had committed to play for Rick Pitino and Louisville before changing his mind.
Tyler would become the first United States-born player to leave high school early to play professionally overseas.
He is expected to return in two years, when he is projected to be a top pick, if not the No. 1 pick, in the 2011 N.B.A. draft.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/sports/ncaabasketball/23prospect.html?_r=1&ref=ncaabasketball


thus is it projected he may be able to make more than $$ a couple million $$
and still come back in two years and be the #1 draft pick in the 2011 NBA draft.
 
I guess there are pluses and minuses in this approach but if he can make a few million I say go for it. I believe the players capable of doing this and making out financially will be rare. If this starts to happen consistently what will the NBA and the NCAA do to combat it. One scenario with obvious rule changes:

An NBA team drafts a player, pays them to play on a college team (where they have to maintain a certain scholastic presence) as they develop for up to 2 years. This way they are in a much better environment then playing in an alternative league, the NBA stays in control and the NCAA has a better overall product. Now the problem is who is recruiting for who at this level. The better coaches would most definitely get the better players regardless of affiliation.
 
more on Jeremy Tyler's decision to go to Europe to make money playing basketball instead of going to high school....

these are quotes and the link.....

"Cavers' Tyler opts to play pro ball
...high school basketball “was boring and I wasn't getting better.” He said he thought he could improve in the pros.

Sonny Vaccaro, the famed former sneaker company executive, helped Tyler with his decision.
Tyler could make a six-figure salary in Europe.

Jeremy Tyler is saying, 'Why do I have to go to high school?' ”
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stor...tyler-opts-play-pro-ball/?sports&zIndex=87081


hmmm....my kids ask the same question...but I have an answer........
 
The Herd was talking about this earlier today... I am about 50/50 on most of his opinions but this one I disagree with.

He said the kid is 6'11"... his job will be to play basketball and make money doing it. If your kid was a genius and left school early to go for an internship overseas that would further his education, he would also be for his benefit.

He said he guarantee's that this kid will be making more money then his high school classmates not only this year, but for the near future, so why not let him go.

The counter-argument (which he obviously did not allow to be made) is that what if this kid tears up his knee and can never play again... then he has a big pay day and can never play again. He will have enough money to live off of for a while, but then will not have a high school diploma to fall back on. Sounds like a lifelong burger flipper if that happens...
 
Personally, i think this is really sad.

I am a big fan of players that spend time in college and get themselves an education. I can understand people going straight from HS to NBA, but still think they should college it for a bit anyway.

But leaving high school to play in Europe seems a little ridiculous. This guy won't even have a high school degree!

Not a big fan of this not at all
 
BUconnorD said:
Personally, i think this is really sad.

I am a big fan of players that spend time in college and get themselves an education. I can understand people going straight from HS to NBA, but still think they should college it for a bit anyway.

But leaving high school to play in Europe seems a little ridiculous. This guy won't even have a high school degree!

Not a big fan of this not at all
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The job of an education is to prepare you to make a living period. College goes the next round and prepares you to be able to socially adapt to most situations. Those are the intangibles but if you can make a he11 of a lot of money bypassing the educational route and you are really not that into it then I believe you should bypass it. It would be nice for him to at least be going after his GED but who are we to say what is better if the kid stands a chance to make some money. He can always go back to school if he blows out his knees with a few dollars in his pocket. This will not be the norm.

There is also the issue of should HS students be forced to go through a classic education if it is not right for them. In Europe a lot of kids go through some sort of trade school that better prepares them for what they willactually be doing for a living. When you look at an education as an investment I would bet that this country has wasted alot of money. I believe we need to look at education differently and probably put our classical education into kids that really will use it instead of spreading it out thin to individuals where it will have zero return.

You said,"but still think they should college it for a bit anyway." Why??????? There is another kid out there that will use his space with much better return to our society.
 
the trend continues with Calathes, and now an ACC kid, sophomore Terrence Oglesby,
leaving Clemson to go directly to Europe and play professionally.
For these decent kids who may know they don't have NBA level skills, the choice gives him TWO
extra years of earnings potential, since he's leaving school as a sophomore ...
http://clemson.scout.com/2/867680.html
 
tornado said:
the trend continues with Calathes, and now an ACC kid, sophomore Terrence Oglesby,
leaving Clemson to go directly to Europe and play professionally.
For these decent kids who may know they don't have NBA level skills, the choice gives him TWO
extra years of earnings potential, since he's leaving school as a sophomore ...
http://clemson.scout.com/2/867680.html
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If they do come back do they have to go through the draft or are they a free agent?
 
SFP said:
If they do come back do they have to go through the draft or are they a free agent?
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I believe this is the Danny Ferry rule...that once you are out of school youbecome a free agent only if you've gone through the draft and either not drafted or not signed---
or if you have left school and played pro ball for two years, then you are a free agent, otherwise, you cannot enter the NBA without going through the draft at least once.
 
tornado said:
I believe this is the Danny Ferry rule...that once you are out of school you become a free agent only if you've gone through the draft and either not drafted or not signed---
or if you have left school and played pro ball for two years, then you are a free agent, otherwise, you cannot enter the NBA without going through the draft at least once.
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Jeremy Tyler would not be able to enter the draft for another 2 years but will be playing professional ball for those 2 years. So if that rule holds up he would be a free agent! I'm sure there has to be some ruling on age also because there are other Euro players that have entered the draft with more then 2 years of professional ball. I'm sure most players would rather be a FA.
 
but there is a separate rule that prohibits a kid from being drafted until he's a year out of HS or 20 y/o. That's just an age rule.
 
Would anyone ever question a kid that wasnt making it grade wise and joined the military to help his future, or just got a construction job, or started an acting or singing career? NO WAY
but if your an athlete, its different, you can make a million dollars when your 20, you just have to do it the way we accept, what a bunch of horse pooh !
Not everyone is a gifted scholar, or a gifted athlete, you should be able to use whatever talents or gifts you have to move forward with your future, if you dont make it as an athlete, that doesnt mean you can not get an education. You will just have to go to school like the rest of us did, struggling and working !!! This country is filled with millionaires that skipped their education because they were to busy making money
 
I say if the kid is smart enough not to blow all his millions on women, casinos and drugs along with staying out of jail, then all the power to him. I mean, who really uses all that senior algebra and science playing hoops?

Jason
 
The news on Jeremy Tyler, who skipped his senior year in high school to play pro ball in Europe,
is not good....just as he thought he was about to sign, the talks broke down between him & his "agent" Sonny Vaccaro and the team, Slovenia Champs, Union Olimpija Lubiana.
Previous talks with Maroussi of Greece and Maccabi Tel Aviv of Israel have also led nowhere.

Now there are those who are saying Vaccaro is doing a bad job of negotiating and asking too much.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2009/08/01/jeremy-tyler-to-slovenia/
 
It's official! He's signed..... And will only be paid $140,000 :o


http://www.cbssports.com/general/story/12057702

That's one helluva pittance for taking such a large gamble and potentially exposing his weaknesses to the NBA. Now, this kid can never play in college and the $140K after expenses, etc. won't even pay for a full college degree. I hope this kid is good.
 
Tyler's season in Europe turned out a bit more disappointing that he'd have liked...
but at least he made $140,000

"Former U.S. high school basketball star Jeremy Tyler quit Israeli team
Maccabi Haifa and returned home Friday, cutting short a disappointing first
pro season.
However, his time in Israel was fraught with problems, and he left two
months before the end of the season
"Due to personal matters, Jeremy chose to leave the team on his own will on
March 18 and return home to San Diego," Maccabi Haifa owner Jeffery Rosen
said in a statement.
In the 10 games Tyler played for Haifa, the 6-11 (2.11-meter) power forward
averaged only 2.1 points and 1.9 rebounds in 7.6 minutes per game. Tyler,
who reportedly earned a $140,000 salary, found it hard to adapt to the pro
game and couldn't find a place in Maccabi Haifa's starting lineup.
His frustration began to show. Last month he walked out on the team at
halftime to protest not getting more minutes. For the last three games he sat
on the bench not wearing a uniform after being left off the Haifa squad
entirely."


http://www.csmonitor.com/From-the-n...es-Jeremy-Tyler-quits-Israeli-basketball-team
 
2 HS players in a row who have not panned out in Europe. I wonder what impact this will have on any other talent in heading over. It seems that the over pampering of these guys has created an entitlement attitude from these guys.
 
SFP said:
2 HS players in a row who have not panned out in Europe. I wonder what impact this will have on any other talent in heading over. It seems that the over pampering of these guys has created an entitlement attitude from these guys.
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it's hard to say that jennings didn't pan out. He didn't get tons of minutes, but he put his head down and did the work in Italy. Came back and is having a really good rookie season in the NBA (Helping Bucks to playoffs). Just because he went for a year and didn't explode, doesn't mean he didn't pan out, Tyler on the other hand, has much growing up to do.

Jennings will be the probably wind up being the positive example of a kid who doesn't want to go to college but wants to hone his craft for a year in Europe. He went over, got better at basketball and will probably have a pretty good NBA career.

If Nic Calathes comes back to the states he'll be an interesting case too. One year of college ball and then to Greece.
 
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