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Transfer portal players

The transfer portal is not going to change. We need to get used to this. The NCAA and the big Power 5 schools who run things believe the transfer portal is working just fine. This is exactly how they envisioned it would work. They are not the least bit concerned about how it is affecting mid-major and smaller schools.
 
The transfer portal is not going to change. We need to get used to this. The NCAA and the big Power 5 schools who run things believe the transfer portal is working just fine. This is exactly how they envisioned it would work. They are not the least bit concerned about how it is affecting mid-major and smaller schools.

Exactly… it’s how they combat the one and done. This is where the power 5 schools will get juniors and seniors now. Not from their own development.
 
The transfer portal is not going to change. We need to get used to this. The NCAA and the big Power 5 schools who run things believe the transfer portal is working just fine. This is exactly how they envisioned it would work. They are not the least bit concerned about how it is affecting mid-major and smaller schools.

That’s exactly what I figured DaCoach. Thanks for confirming
 
I agree… just saying how the big boys view it/want it

During his commentary of one of the NCAA tourney games Reggie Miller commented on the transfers that were playing and how the new transfer rules have reinvigorated college basketball. I think every mid/low major fan would disagree. The idea of being the minor leagues for the big guys is very disheartening as a fan.
 
A third Murray State transfer has committed to LSU where their former head coach Matt McMahon is now the new LSU head coach-
Trae Hannibal joins Justice Hill and Corneilous Williams in committing to LSU-
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/st...60567879381025

Updated list of all the MVC players in the transfer portal, so far-
Belmont-

Will Richard- freshman guard - starter 12.1 pg, 6.0 rpg
JaCobi Wood- sophomore guard - top reserve, 6.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg

Bradley-
Jayson Kent- sophomore- transferred to Indiana State
Terry Roberts- junior

Drake-
Jordan Kwiecinski- redshirt freshman

Evansville-
Troy Boynton- redshirt freshman
Jawaun Newton- senior
Emmette Page- redshirt junior

Illinois State-
Antonio Reeves- junior
Alston Andrews- sophomore
Abdou Ndiaye- junior

Indiana State-
Tyreke Key- 5th year senior
Nick Hittle- sophomore
Quimari Peterson- freshman
Simon Wilbar- sophomore
Dearon Tucker- junior
Micah Thomas- sophomore

Missouri State-
Keaton Hervey- senior
Demarcus Sharp- senior
Ja'Monta Black- junior
Melvyn Ebonkoli- sophomore

Murray State-
K.J. Williams- junior
Jackson Sivills- freshman
Damiree Burns- sophomore
Dionte Bostic- freshman
Justice Hill- sophomore- transferred to LSU
Elijah Farr- junior
Trae Hannibal- sophomore- transferred to LSU
DaQuan Smith- redshirt sophomore
Matt Smith- redshirt sophomore
Corneilous Williams- transferred to LSU
NIcholas McMullen- sophomore

UNI-
Noah Carter- sophomore

SIU-
Sekou Dembele- junior
Kyler Filewich- sophomore

UIC-
Zion Griffin- junior
Jalen Johnson- junior
Marcus Larsson- junior

Valparaiso-
Keyondre Young- freshman
Sheldon Edwards- sophomore
Trey Woodyard- freshman
 
A third Murray State transfer has committed to LSU where their former head coach Matt McMahon is now the new LSU head coach-
Trae Hannibal joins Justice Hill and Corneilous Williams in committing to LSU-
https://twitter.com/VerbalCommits/st...60567879381025

Updated list of all the MVC players in the transfer portal, so far-
Belmont-

Will Richard- freshman guard - starter 12.1 pg, 6.0 rpg
JaCobi Wood- sophomore guard - top reserve, 6.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg

Bradley-
Jayson Kent- sophomore- transferred to Indiana State
Terry Roberts- junior

Drake-
Jordan Kwiecinski- redshirt freshman

Evansville-
Troy Boynton- redshirt freshman
Jawaun Newton- senior
Emmette Page- redshirt junior

Illinois State-
Antonio Reeves- junior
Alston Andrews- sophomore
Abdou Ndiaye- junior

Indiana State-
Tyreke Key- 5th year senior
Nick Hittle- sophomore
Quimari Peterson- freshman
Simon Wilbar- sophomore
Dearon Tucker- junior
Micah Thomas- sophomore

Missouri State-
Keaton Hervey- senior
Demarcus Sharp- senior
Ja'Monta Black- junior

Murray State-
K.J. Williams- junior
Jackson Sivills- freshman
Damiree Burns- sophomore
Dionte Bostic- freshman
Justice Hill- sophomore- transferred to LSU
Elijah Farr- junior
Trae Hannibal- sophomore- transferred to LSU
DaQuan Smith- redshirt sophomore
Matt Smith- redshirt sophomore
Corneilous Williams- transferred to LSU
Nicholas McMullen- sophomore


UNI-
Noah Carter- sophomore

SIU-
Sekou Dembele- junior
Kyler Filewich- sophomore

UIC-
Zion Griffin- junior
Jalen Johnson- junior
Marcus Larsson- junior

Valparaiso-
Keyondre Young- freshman
Sheldon Edwards- sophomore
Trey Woodyard- freshman

This has to be p***ing off their new head coach Steve Prohm
 
This has to be p***ing off their new head coach Steve Prohm

I am sure none of this is being done in secret from Prohm. I bet he knew how many and which players were likely to go to LSU. I just can't imagine LSU basketball fans (however few they may be) are too happy. They believe the SEC is far superior to the OVC, and probably were expecting to get much higher level transfers and 5 star recruits. They are losing 4 and 5 star players from their roster and are being replaced with mid-majors.
 
Nicholas McMullen- a 6'8" 2nd year forward who played in all 34 games off the bench, and averaged 3.2 ppg and 2.9 rpg.
https://verbalcommits.com/players/nicholas-mcmullen
That makes 11 players in the portal, plus another player (Tevin Brown) who declared for the NBA Draft and announced plans to sign with an agent. Plus, their top 2022 recruit decommitted and their 2 graduate players are leaving after exhausting all their eligibility. Good luck in the MVC next year. :)
 
New MVC member UIC's top scorer and rebounder Damaria Franklin has declared for the NBA Draft-
https://twitter.com/Marsssss_3/statu...43460010708995

He says he will not sign with an agent and will maintain his college eligibility, but does not say he would return to UIC.
Franklin averaged 17.8 ppg and 6.9 rpg, but shot only 29.7% from three. He averaged 16 FG attempts per game, and only 3 FT attempts per game.
I wonder what his chances of getting drafted are?
 
I don’t think the rules will change either, but when entire teams are transferring it makes we wonder if it will affect the casual college basketball fan, which should concern the NCAA. It’s very short term thinking. When I have to get to know entire new rosters to casually watch a game every year even at the highest level I don’t feel like doing it. Kentucky has turned over the roster for years, but they at least had NBA prospects to interest people, though I don’t like that either. Do people care to watch teams other than their own with so much change? If they weren’t an MVC team any interest I had in watching Murray State would have just went away. Same applies to a high major that has tons of new players; it would feel like an all star game (players on different teams joining together) or maybe even a summer pickup game.

Development means nothing now, it’s just win right now. Every coach has to become John Calipari then. Just seems bad for everyone long term, even the big boys if college basketball loses interest.

I guess mid-majors need to pivot to finding kids that really seem to be committed to more than bright lights. Focus on kids who want an education, seem like they have strong commitment in their lives, aren’t looking for just money, and truly believe in a program. Kids like Mast and Leons. Easier said than done. Bradley tapping into their overseas recruiting more too perhaps. It’s been successful thus far.
 
I don’t think the rules will change either, but when entire teams are transferring it makes we wonder if it will affect the casual college basketball fan, which should concern the NCAA. It’s very short term thinking. When I have to get to know entire new rosters to casually watch a game every year even at the highest level I don’t feel like doing it. Kentucky has turned over the roster for years, but they at least had NBA prospects to interest people, though I don’t like that either. Do people care to watch teams other than their own with so much change? If they weren’t an MVC team any interest I had in watching Murray State would have just went away. Same applies to a high major that has tons of new players; it would feel like an all star game (players on different teams joining together) or maybe even a summer pickup game.

Development means nothing now, it’s just win right now. Every coach has to become John Calipari then. Just seems bad for everyone long term, even the big boys if college basketball loses interest.

I guess mid-majors need to pivot to finding kids that really seem to be committed to more than bright lights. Focus on kids who want an education, seem like they have strong commitment in their lives, aren’t looking for just money, and truly believe in a program. Kids like Mast and Leons. Easier said than done. Bradley tapping into their overseas recruiting more too perhaps. It’s been successful thus far.

Trickle Down Effect….. New NBA team stacking mentality has made its way down these players
 
I don’t think the rules will change either, but when entire teams are transferring it makes we wonder if it will affect the casual college basketball fan, which should concern the NCAA. It’s very short term thinking. When I have to get to know entire new rosters to casually watch a game every year even at the highest level I don’t feel like doing it. Kentucky has turned over the roster for years, but they at least had NBA prospects to interest people, though I don’t like that either. Do people care to watch teams other than their own with so much change? If they weren’t an MVC team any interest I had in watching Murray State would have just went away. Same applies to a high major that has tons of new players; it would feel like an all star game (players on different teams joining together) or maybe even a summer pickup game.

Development means nothing now, it’s just win right now. Every coach has to become John Calipari then. Just seems bad for everyone long term, even the big boys if college basketball loses interest.

I guess mid-majors need to pivot to finding kids that really seem to be committed to more than bright lights. Focus on kids who want an education, seem like they have strong commitment in their lives, aren’t looking for just money, and truly believe in a program. Kids like Mast and Leons. Easier said than done. Bradley tapping into their overseas recruiting more too perhaps. It’s been successful thus far.

The difference between foreign and American kids. Foreign kids work at getting better. American kids are coddled and feel entitled. They want instant gratification. NOW!!!!!I would continue looking at foreign kids. I know one of the things Wardle looks at in recruiting a kid is his work ethic. If the kid has none Wardle does not want him
 
I don’t know if there is a kid with a better work ethic than Darrell Brown. I’m of the opinion to just find the best players you can with good character, wherever they’re from. It stinks that Terry left but we’re still better for his playing here and keeping us competitive.
 
I don’t know if there is a kid with a better work ethic than Darrell Brown. I’m of the opinion to just find the best players you can with good character, wherever they’re from. It stinks that Terry left but we’re still better for his playing here and keeping us competitive.

No doubt it was fun to watch Brown, Kennell, and Bar all grow together for four years. It's realistic to ask if we will ever get that kind of group that sticks together for four years again. Real shame they didn't get to see what they could do in the tournament at the end.
 
No doubt it was fun to watch Brown, Kennell, and Bar all grow together for four years. It's realistic to ask if we will ever get that kind of group that sticks together for four years again. Real shame they didn't get to see what they could do in the tournament at the end.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Continuity is what makes the mid-majors dangerous, and when you run into a senior laden team that's played together for 4 years, they can give the big boys some real problems. I'm afraid with the rules now, these days may be long gone. I sure hope I'm wrong.
 
The transfer portal is not going to change. We need to get used to this. The NCAA and the big Power 5 schools who run things believe the transfer portal is working just fine. This is exactly how they envisioned it would work. They are not the least bit concerned about how it is affecting mid-major and smaller schools.

The NCAA did not foresee the fallout from the Covid extra year of eligibility rule. It was not seen so much last year because players who opted for a 5th year did not count against teams' scholarship limit of 13. Thus D1 schools still had the same number of scholarships overall and they were able to focus the usual amount of recruiting on high school kids.
But this year (and for the next couple years), the players who opt to stay for a 5th year will count against the 13 scholarship limit. As a result, D1 schools will have far fewer open scholarships to hand out. It means fewer available scholarships to go to high school recruits who would otherwise have gotten them. Those kids will be forced to accept lower-level offers (low-major, D2, juco, etc). Then they may look to move up each year in a continuing cycle of movement into the transfer portal for years to come.
We may already be seeing this. There have been fewer spring commitments so far by MVC schools than in past years, and none of them have been high school kids.
The only spring commitments announced so far by MVC schools are:
Juco James Weathers by Bradley
BU transfer Jayson Kent by Indiana State
Akron transfer Bryan Trimble by Missouri State
Texas Tech transfer Sadaar Calhoun by Drake
and D2 transfer Nick Edwards by Valparaiso
Not a single high school commitment by any MVC school for the spring signing period that starts in a little over a week.
 
Missouri State's Melvyn Ebonkoli has entered the transfer portal. Ebonkoli is a 6'7" sophomore who only played in 6 games as a freshman for a total of 14 minutes. Then he redshirted as a sophomore this past season.
https://verbalcommits.com/players/melvyn-ebonkoli
https://missouristatebears.com/sport...-ebonkoli/6321

He joins Demarcus Sharp, Ja'Monta Black, and Keaton Hervey as the 4th Missouri State player to leave.


Updated list of all the MVC players in the transfer portal, so far-
Belmont-

Will Richard- freshman guard - starter 12.1 pg, 6.0 rpg
JaCobi Wood- sophomore guard - top reserve, 6.3 ppg, 2.1 rpg

Bradley-
Jayson Kent- sophomore- transferred to Indiana State
Terry Roberts- junior

Drake-
Jordan Kwiecinski- redshirt freshman

Evansville-
Troy Boynton- redshirt freshman
Jawaun Newton- senior
Emmette Page- redshirt junior

Illinois State-
Antonio Reeves- junior
Alston Andrews- sophomore
Abdou Ndiaye- junior

Indiana State-
Tyreke Key- 5th year senior
Nick Hittle- sophomore
Quimari Peterson- freshman
Simon Wilbar- sophomore
Dearon Tucker- junior
Micah Thomas- sophomore

Missouri State-
Keaton Hervey- senior
Demarcus Sharp- senior
Ja'Monta Black- junior
Melvyn Ebonkoli- sophomore

Murray State-
K.J. Williams- junior
Jackson Sivills- freshman
Damiree Burns- sophomore
Dionte Bostic- freshman
Justice Hill- sophomore- transferred to LSU
Elijah Farr- junior
Trae Hannibal- sophomore- transferred to LSU
DaQuan Smith- redshirt sophomore
Matt Smith- redshirt sophomore
Corneilous Williams- transferred to LSU
NIcholas McMullen- sophomore

UNI-
Noah Carter- sophomore

SIU-
Sekou Dembele- junior
Kyler Filewich- sophomore

UIC-
Zion Griffin- junior
Jalen Johnson- junior
Marcus Larsson- junior

Valparaiso-
Keyondre Young- freshman
Sheldon Edwards- sophomore
Trey Woodyard- freshman
 
Here's another example of how the transfer portal, the immediate eligibility, and the NIL rules are killing the mid-major and smaller schools.
St. Peter's University was the one big "Cinderella" team of this year's NCAA Tournament. They were a #15 seed who upset #2 seed Kentucky, #7 seed Murray State, then #3 seed Purdue, before finally falling to North Carolina in the Elite 8. It was cited as an example of how more of the small schools (St. Peter's has 2,100 undergrads) and lower NET schools (St. Peter's was NET #124) should have the chance to compete in the tournament.

But today, 3 of St. Peter's top 5 scorers, who have played together at SPU for the last 3 seasons, entered the transfer portal (Daryl Banks, Doug Edert, Matthew Lee), no doubt hoping to cash in on their success and celebrity by landing at another school that offers them an NIL deal.
 
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