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Trouble Churning at Indiana

tornado

tornado

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Lots of rumbles coming out of IU, and not just the swift act of Kelvin Sampson firing one of his trusted
assistants as if the assistant, Rob Senderoff, is really the guy fully responsible for all Sampson's violations.
Their message boards are on FULL Melt-down mode...
http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7387798
http://indiana.rivals.com/forum.asp?sid=&fid=726
http://indiana.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=726&tid=104316607&mid=104316607&sid=942&style=2
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170#s=170&f=2353&t=1310428

Even some IU fans are saying "a fish rots from the head down", meaning they know Sampson is hiding even more violations and wants Senderoff out of there to hopefully send the NCAA on a cold trail.
Now another report that "the **** will really hit the fan on Tuesday" (tomorrow)
Supposedly the Big Ten will instigate its own investigation and sanctions of Sampson...
http://forums.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=170#s=170&f=2353&t=1310428

Even the recruits and their AAU coaches are being briefed about new problems that are going to arise, and one rumor has it that the highest rated of all the IU recruits will rethink his committment to Indiana (Ebanks).
 
I love that Sampson is finally paying for his actions... Lets hope the NCAA and the Big Ten don't let him squirm out of this.
 
But it is indeed sad to watch as a man and his entire career unravel right before your eyes,
collapsing and crumbling like what happened with Watergate.
 
He has been doing this for years he is just now getting nailed for it.I really don't think he is going to lose his job over because they knew what they were getting when they hired the scum bag.
 
bu fan 9 said:
He has been doing this for years he is just now getting nailed for it.I really don't think he is going to lose his job over because they knew what they were getting when they hired the scum bag.
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I know, but I was just waxing poetic...
 
bu fan 9 said:
It's a BCS school they will get off with a slap on the wrist.Nothing major will happen to them.
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With enough press and eyes watching this not even a BCS school can get out of this with just a wrist slap. They will not be set up as an example though but I bet probably they will lose that one scholarship for two years and not be able to play in post season tournaments for one. Indiana is one of the elite schools so chances are high they will not suffer to much. There have been BCS schools that the NCAA have gone after hard for marginal violations. This is somewhat marginal except Sampson is a repeat offender. If I was Indiana I'd fire him pronto before the NCAA has do something.
 
I also have heard that Kelvin Sampson was in Peoria over this past weekend, and was spotted being picked up at the airport.
One can only wonder what he was in Peoria for, except that one other reason he has come here in the past year was to recruit Matt Roth.
Damage control?

By the way, Mike Decourcy of Sporting News has suddenly changed his tone and opinion on this whole thing...
"Indiana makes wrong call by dumping assistant"
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=297191
 
tornado said:
I also have heard that Kelvin Sampson was in Peoria over this past weekend, and was spotted being picked up at the airport.
One can only wonder what he was in Peoria for, except that one other reason he has come here in the past year was to recruit Matt Roth.
Damage control?

By the way, Mike Decourcy of Sporting News has suddenly changed his tone and opinion on this whole thing...
"Indiana makes wrong call by dumping assistant"
http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=297191
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he was probably recruiting DJ
 
Beninator said:
Confirmation that Senderoff was asked to resign from the Herald times online.




http://blogs.heraldtimesonline.com/iusp/
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"Two violations unrelated to telephone conversations were also reported to the NCAA:

On May 12, Senderoff arranged a 15 to 30-minute meeting at Assembly Hall between former IU President Adam W. Herbert and the mother of a prospective student athlete. The mother had come to Bloomington to watch her son participate in an AAU basketball tournament at Assembly Hall. NCAA rules prohibit schools from making recruiting contacts with tournament participants or their families until after the tournament is over. To determine whether a violation had occurred, the university had to confer with the Big Ten conference, which in turn had to request assistance from the NCAA to clarify the complex rules in this area.
On June 30, assistant coach Jeff Meyer arranged for Sampson to meet with a prospect who was in Bloomington to participate in a Sampson-sponsored tournament. Because NCAA rules prohibited Sampson from making recruiting contacts with tournament participants, the prospect’s coach was told he would have to withdraw from subsequent participation if he met with Sampson. The meeting took place, but the prospect returned to the tournament the next day unbeknownst to Meyer or Sampson.

Both of these infractions were reported as secondary violations because they provided no recruiting advantage and did not include any inducement or extra benefit."

The official stance from IU is that having their head basketball coach meet with a recruit provided no recruiting advantage???????


What a joke .... If it provides no recruting advantage, then why arrange to meet with the recruit in the first place????


The NCAA should nail IU for putting out such nonsense in the public record
 
As we have seen quoted elsewhere, the recruits themselves say otherwise, and
that any and every extra coaching contact, phone call, or face to face meeting does help in recruiting.
Plus, if at any time, the frequency of calls drops off, the recruit almost always takes that as a loss of interest from the school.
So...it is obvious that these illegal contact are still important enough that Sampson goes right ahead and commits the violation, knowing it is wrong, but wanting to gain the recruiting advantage.
He is counting on the NCAA looking the other way and perhaps has no conscience regarding actually following the rules. IMO,he is a sociopathic rule violator and isn't going to stop then or in the future, even if under sanctions.
 
tornado said:
He is counting on the NCAA looking the other way and has no conscience regarding actually following the rules. He is a sociopathic ruole violator and isn't going to stop then or in the future, even if under sanctions.
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For him to be heading down this exact same road once again makes him either stupid or arrogant, and I don't think he's that stupid.
 
Yet their are some Indiana folks who reply to inquiries about this with 'this was to be expected'. Seriously? A repeat of numerous NCAA violations was 'to be expected'? Unbelievable that so many smart minds can be so naive about something like this. Here's the reply a friend of mine got when asking his IU contact about the current happenings in Bloomington -

...and your point???

This wasn't unexpected...and, I'm sure you have thoroughly read the report and understand exactly what happened (as I have), and understand that the primary reason he was forced to resign is that he made the majority of questionable phone calls from his home phone, which he didn't document, and therefore caused the calls the other coaches were making to exceed the limit. When he was first asked if he had made calls from his home phone, he said no, but when the coaches turned over their home phone records, it became obvious he wasn't being truthful.

That is the piece that gave the University no choice but to force him to resign...

Indiana continues to embarrass themselves and tarnish their once proud reputation by allowing such things to continue and then acting like it's OK.
 
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