Same here. I wonder how often this would happen today at any school?
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Same here. I wonder how often this would happen today at any school?
The only reason a school should consider taking back a scholarship is:
1. student/athlete doesn't meet established academic standards
2. student/athlete gets in trouble with the law
3. student/athlete has broken established team rules
That's it. Once a coach or school has established that they are going to run off players for other reasons they risk other consequences. Other coaches will use it against you during recruiting and a lower APR rate are just two. Plus, if coach or school starts to run off guys when they realize a kid can't contribute then don't be upset when your stars realize they can play at a higher level and leave. IMO commitment is a two way street.
1. student/athlete doesn't meet established academic standards
2. student/athlete gets in trouble with the law
3. student/athlete has broken established team rules
That's it. Once a coach or school has established that they are going to run off players for other reasons they risk other consequences. Other coaches will use it against you during recruiting and a lower APR rate are just two. Plus, if coach or school starts to run off guys when they realize a kid can't contribute then don't be upset when your stars realize they can play at a higher level and leave. IMO commitment is a two way street.
See page 6 on the link of my "The Shame of College Sports" thread. In 2008-09, the article states that 22% of all NCAA basketball scholarships were not renewed. A Rice University football player is suing the NCAA to remove the one year rule. His claim is that without that rule, he would have been able to negotiate with each of the eight schools that recruited him for a guaranteed term for his scholarship. Sounds interesting and fair...
Braves4Life
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I believe UNC-Asheville honored the scholarship of 7'8" Kenny George after he had his foot amputated and his career ended in 2008.
I would hope Bradley NEVER accepts your first standard real fan. Unless a kid gets in trouble, shows lack of effort, doesn't get along with his teammates, or has poor grades he should be allowed to stay on scholarship all four years if he so chooses.
I would hope that BU never becomes like so many of those BCS schools (or ISU) that run off players just to free up a scholie for a better player.
Unfortunately we live in a world that expects winners and the coaching staff gets paid to produce championships, if our staff feels someone is not good enough to play on this team it has to have the power to make tough decisions as far as telling a player that if he expects to play then he needs to look elsewhere because he is not good enough to play here, you cannot keep unproductive players around if you plan on building a winner plus most players that do not improve are at fault for not working hard enough on their game over the summer.
His scholarship was probably moved toward an academic one and should have been honored as this is special circumstances.
Braves4Life
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I agree that a coach has the right and a responsibility to tell a player this...... and if the player is smart he will leave..... but I don't think he should be forced out if he wanted to stay. I'd hate to see a player who gave 3 years to the team (in practice, the classroom, and the community) be forced to leave -- one year shy of graduation -- if a new coach came in and didn't like his talent level.
Buesch N Chips
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Good post, in fact I said something like it above. We are agreeing way too much today.
The NCAA actually has a special Medical Scholarship designation for athletes who's career is cut short due to injuries. Illinois State had a basketball player a couple years ago that they used this special designation for (Mike Vandello). The athlete can remain on full scholarship until they graduate, and it will not count toward their maximum limit of total scholarships.
The medical condition has to be documented to the NCAA, and the athlete has to maintain good academic standing.
Braves4Life
New member
I know Buesch. That's where I got it from..... I should have given you credit as well.
Thank you!
I would add one more.
4. If a student/athlete does not put in the necessary work that a coach requests in improving their game. A scholarship is like a job and if you are lazy you should get canned.
T - I know how ruthless the game is but it does not make it right. Too much is put on winning on the court IMO (trust me I like a winner) instead of teaching our youth good values. That is why I like Butler. They seem to have developed a great balance. I believe we are headed in the right direction and I hope we do not take any short cuts.
BTW I can't wait to hear about Coty.:biggrin:
bigjimmy
Active member
Good news I hope?
I don't know yet. We all hope so!
most of the time. There is a reason I hate group projects. . .
I am not saying anything about a player that has been here 3 years being forced out, most likely would be someone else.
I think that Braves4life's post may have been about the Rice football player I had written about in one of my earlier posts.