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What would Bradley's record be if TB and SM were healthy?

What would Bradley's record be if TB and SM were healthy?

  • 7-0

    Votes: 31 53.4%

  • 6-1

    Votes: 14 24.1%

  • 5-2

    Votes: 12 20.7%

  • 4-3

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • worse than 4-3

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    58
BradleyBrave said:
Fair question - I think we'd be undefeated. I have little doubt actually that we'd be undefeated.

But considering the poor level of competition we've played thus far, even minus 2 starters, I would expect a team that was going to seriously contend in the MVC to be undefeated also, maybe 1 loss at the most with 4 games in 5 days.

As another poster pointed out, of course no one should expect the same results missing 2 all-conference players. But Bradley should have enough depth to be able to beat EIU and this year's WCU team even down 2 guys. Charron Woods is getting meaningful minutes. God bless the kid, but if that doesn't speak volumes about the serious downturn in talent and recruiting, I don't know what does.
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Obviously Les has had some bad luck but so did Porter Moser and Barry Hinson. I think the larger issue is just what BB states here. What would our record be if AT was an average big man who against teams like EIU could dominate? What would our record be if WE was an above average big man? I think we would just as easily be 7-0 if either one of these guys was an all valley type player instead of non factors with or without TB and SM.
 
Lakeview Brave said:
Obviously Les has had some bad luck but so did Porter Moser and Barry Hinson. I think the larger issue is just what BB states here. What would our record be if AT was an average big man who against teams like EIU could dominate? What would our record be if WE was an above average big man? I think we would just as easily be 7-0 if either one of these guys was an all valley type player instead of non factors with or without TB and SM.
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I believe this is the topic of several other active posts.. not this one.
 
real fan said:
Sorry Lefty but 7-0 would be exactly right, Taylor"s scoring and rebounding would be good for at least 10 points and if you watched the games last season Taylor was rarely in foul trouble, the guy trying to guard him was the one in trouble.
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It's all hypothetical.....you can say we would be 7-0...but there is no way to know that for sure.

What would our recored have been if Chuck B was still an asst?...who knows?
 
shaunguth said:
Which begs the question.......when exactly did JL stop listening to his assistants, as other posters have stated. Did he stop listening when CB retired?
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You realize of course you have just now have potentially added a page ot two to this thread;)
 
lefty said:
You realize of course you have just now have potentially added a page ot two to this thread;)
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I had to ask. We've been told that CB was responsible for our success back then (even though we're now told it's 100% JL's responsibility). We're also told that JL doesn't listen to his assistants (apparently leading to our lack of success). I'm guessing it's clearcut and JL stopped listening to his assistants the day after CB retired, but I don't know.
 
shaunguth said:
I had to ask. We've been told that CB was responsible for our success back then (even though we're now told it's 100% JL's responsibility. We're also told that JL doesn't listen to his assistants (apparently leading to our lack of success). I'm guessing it's clearcut and JL stopped listening to his assistants the day after CB retired, but I don't know.
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Of all the asst. coaches JL has had I'm guessing his confidence in CB was better than the rest. Longer relationship and probably respected more than the rest as well.

I thought the same thing when Judson left Mo. I don't think he ever had anyone after that he trusted and relied upon like Jud.
 
lefty said:
Of all the asst. coaches JL has had I'm guessing his confidence in CB was better than the rest. Longer relationship and probably respected more than the rest as well.

I thought the same thing when Judson left Mo. I don't think he ever had anyone after that he trusted and relied upon like Jud.
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Don't think I could trust ANYONE called "Jud"...just sayin. :)
 
7-0 no doubt in my mind. First of all the team morale seemed to take a big hit when TB was announced out. I think before that the team/fan morale was super high about this season. One that was announced it was a major deflator even if you tried not to let it effect you. I'm sure it was the same for the players. So add that on top of what you lose in production, it's an enormous loss. Then you lose your best leader. wow.

Probably with a completely healthy SM alone, we would be 7-0. Of course our competition hasn't been great, but I think with the positive attitude the fan base/players had this summer before the TB announcement, we would have really beat some of these teams pretty bad. It's a real shame to think what this team might have been...
 
BUfan14 said:
7-0 no doubt in my mind. First of all the team morale seemed to take a big hit when TB was announced out. I think before that the team/fan morale was super high about this season. One that was announced it was a major deflator even if you tried not to let it effect you. I'm sure it was the same for the players. So add that on top of what you lose in production, it's an enormous loss. Then you lose your best leader. wow.

Probably with a completely healthy SM alone, we would be 7-0. Of course our competition hasn't been great, but I think with the positive attitude the fan base/players had this summer before the TB announcement, we would have really beat some of these teams pretty bad. It's a real shame to think what this team might have been...
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Provided we got those 2 guys back next year and they don't miss a beat, why can't we be as good or better than we could have been THIS season? We only lose AW and DD is replaceable in my mind with our good, young guards. A nice freshman class coming in that may take some time to gel.
Now the question looms as to whether the coaches can take all the talent and get them to gel and have the right combinations. Just my take.
 
LittleBrave said:
Provided we got those 2 guys back next year and they don't miss a beat, why can't we be as good or better than we could have been THIS season? We only lose AW and DD is replaceable in my mind with our good, young guards. A nice freshman class coming in that may take some time to gel.
Now the question looms as to whether the coaches can take all the talent and get them to gel and have the right combinations. Just my take.
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Oh I agree. I think 3 of our 4 freshman could contribute right away from what I've read...I think we could be even better next year. It's just a shame it always seems to be pushed back a year. It's a shame for AW, DD, and JL too. But yes DD's leadership and play can probably be replaced by DSE, and hopefully SH, RA, and DS can shoot enough 3's (I've read they are good shooters) to replace AW's outside shooting. That might be my one concern for next year, but between those 3, SM, and WL having decent outside shots hopefully we will be fine. Plus JE, DSE, and MK could still develop good shooting touch. Because I think big men can be covered by JP, TB, AD, SH, MK next year even if WE/AT still do not step up.

But this is IF TB is fine and healthy. And that scares me, I really hope he turns out fine.
 
lefty said:
It's all hypothetical.....you can say we would be 7-0...but there is no way to know that for sure.

What would our recored have been if Chuck B was still an asst?...who knows?
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I agree... I hope that we would have been 6-1 or 7-0, but the way we played early this year..... I just don't know with any certainty.... :?
 
Beninator said:
I agree... I hope that we would have been 6-1 or 7-0, but the way we played early this year..... I just don't know with any certainty.... :?
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played earlier..without TB and a not very healthy SM...I still think with both 100% we do not miss a beat and win all games this far....now Utah would be a different matter...not to mention Duke..
 
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