I'm not surprised, it did seem like we had much more of a home court advantage during the Molinari years. On the flip side, my gut is that we are better away from home under Les. Do we have the numbers on that?
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Where is our home-court advantage?
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I'm not surprised, it did seem like we had much more of a home court advantage during the Molinari years. On the flip side, my gut is that we are better away from home under Les. Do we have the numbers on that?
BradleyBrave
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Not true. Through Mo's first 7-8 years we were much better on the road than we are now. The last 3-4 were so poor on the road, that the Mo and Les eras are nearly equal as far as road games go. Les has been better on neutral courts, and that's about it.
Hey, BB, I don't know the answer, but how does Les compare to Mo on record against top 50 or top 100 opponents. A frustrating (against weak teams) and occasionaly great (against good teams) feature of Les's teams has been performance to level of the opponent.
AZ BU Fan
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Were the refs guarding BU players when they were chucking up 3's? Were they defending them when they went to the FT line? BU put themselves at the mercy of the officiating with their poor start. Poor shooting the rest of the way put them at the mercy of calls. BTW, CU 19 fouls - were all of the CU calls/non calls on BU legit?
Coaches recruit players who can win (BU 4-14 vs CU under JL), gets players who can shoot (BU 4-14 vs CU under JL), improves player's skills (BU 4-14 vs CU under JL), motivates teams for big games vs big opponents (BU 4-14 vs CU under JL), game plans and adjusts plans during games vs opponents (BU 4-14 vs CU under JL), install their offensive and defensive systems (BU 4-14 vs CU under JL)....
YEAH, I guess I would have to say DA outcoaches JL pretty regularly.
No argument from me on any of the, AZ BU fan. I haven't anywhere said that the refs decided this game. I'm pretty convinced they were a part, and I'm pretty convinced that they helped CU, but Bradley had a LOT of chances to win and didn't... That's all there is to it.
Creighton: At 10-10, the Bluejays are in danger of falling short of 20 wins for the first time since 1997-98. But their lackluster record this season hasn't carried over to their performance at the off-campus Qwest Center. The Bluejays are 9-1 at home, with the only loss coming to Missouri Valley Conference leader Northern Iowa. Since the Qwest Center opened in downtown Omaha before the 2003-04 season, Creighton is 93-17 there, compared to 37-44 on the road.
The biggest problem with the lack of home court advantage is that Bradley doesn't practice at the Civic Center. Their practices are almost all at Haussler Hall and the Markin Center. So they don't have the same advantage that most MVC teams have of playing where they practice all the time.
Maybe most people here don't realize it, but the Civic Center charges Bradley an outrageous fee to rent the arena just for a practice. So they only are able to hold a few practices down at Carver Arena.
Maybe most people here don't realize it, but the Civic Center charges Bradley an outrageous fee to rent the arena just for a practice. So they only are able to hold a few practices down at Carver Arena.
SaintLouBrave22
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Wow, really?!
Thats what you're gonna go with?
Bradley isn't the only team in the conference who doesn't practice at home...and last I checked, it didn't affect them in previous years where they won frequently at home and didn't practice at Carver.
Sorry you can't understand that the biggest part of a "home court advantage" is the comfort your players feel playing there.
The majority of MVC teams have their own arenas.
These schools have their own arenas, and practice regularly on their "home court"-
Illinois State
Indiana State
Northern Iowa
Drake
Missouri State
Wichita State
Southern Illinois
These are the schools with Civic or private arenas-
Bradley
Evansville
Creighton
I have no idea how often Creighton or Evansville practice on their arena floors, or how much they are charged for it. But I know it affects a school like Bradley, who practice infrequently at the Civic Center. It's foolish to think this is not a significant factor.
The majority of MVC teams have their own arenas.
These schools have their own arenas, and practice regularly on their "home court"-
Illinois State
Indiana State
Northern Iowa
Drake
Missouri State
Wichita State
Southern Illinois
These are the schools with Civic or private arenas-
Bradley
Evansville
Creighton
I have no idea how often Creighton or Evansville practice on their arena floors, or how much they are charged for it. But I know it affects a school like Bradley, who practice infrequently at the Civic Center. It's foolish to think this is not a significant factor.
Scoretable
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Home Court Advantage
Home Court Advantage
The last time I watched a basketball game, it was clear both teams are trying to win. Bradley was trying to win. They lost to a team who played better last night. Criticism only has merit if you understand what goes on nightly in college basketball. Negativism based on the game last night is disgusting!
Home Court Advantage
The last time I watched a basketball game, it was clear both teams are trying to win. Bradley was trying to win. They lost to a team who played better last night. Criticism only has merit if you understand what goes on nightly in college basketball. Negativism based on the game last night is disgusting!
BradleyBrave
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So why have previous regimes been able to win more at Carver than this one?
BradleyBrave
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So 4 home losses in 10 games is OK to you?
chitown fanatic
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Yeah, BB, quit showing all your negativism, you negativist, you! Negativites everywhere on this board.
My guess- The MVC of the last 7 or 8 years is not the weaker MVC of the 1990's.
You can't compare equally with those teams.
Also, as you know, Bradley's lack of state-of-the-art facilities has made it much harder to compete in this era when every other team has improved.
BradleyBrave
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Why can't we compare them? It's very, very debatable that the MVC is any better than it was back then. Yes, it was in 2006, and was reflected in 4 NCAA teams and 1 NIT team. Since then, not so much. The last two years, the MVC has only sent 1 team to the NCAA Tournament and won 0 games, and it's hard to argue that we deserved more than that. In most of the last 7-8 years of the Molinari era, the MVC sent at least 2 teams to the NCAA's, won NCAA games, and made Sweet 16's. Right now I see 8 of 10 teams in the MVC that are .500 or below in league play, and yet we've lost twice at home in this league. How is the MVC so much better?
Regarding facilities - I thought the guys we've recruited as of late cited new facilities as a reason they came here. We also got an NBA all-star and an NBA Lottery Pick to come here with no facilities, so does that excuse really hold any water? So are the players just not good enough? Every other coach for the last 30 years has, at the very least, been able to win at home. Now you're talking as if that's asking too much. I would think you would demand better considering all of the time, effort, and personal resources you very generously donate to the university and basketball program.
Carver Arena Guy
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This argument doesn't make much sense. Wouldn't the league have been weaker for every team and not just Bradley? Vice versa, didn't the league get tougher for every team and not just Bradley?
Sure you can compare equally with those teams. It's the exact same league. If the league gets better and you don't that's on you. Is it not?
The facilities argument has been there for a long time. It's tired and irrelevant. It has nothing to do with winning or losing at home.
Flawed logic with this argument. There are 2 teams to every game. If neither team gets to practice on the floor, that is even. Although depending on travel schedules, BU may have the advantage with a morning shoot around type thing.
The other team plays at Carver 1 time per year. So the most experience a senior player on the opposing team would have is 3 games in a career.
Bradley players participate in about 30 games in a year, with probably 60%+ on that floor. Even Jake Eastman has played more games at Carver than any player on any other team in the valley.
No excuse.
So then you are saying that not ever being able to practice in the arena that you play in should not have any effect, and that home-court advantage would be exactly the same as a team that always practices in their arena?
Maybe you have never been closely associated with a D1 team. Ask any coach or D1 player if it makes a difference. I guarantee they will say it does.
Maybe you have never been closely associated with a D1 team. Ask any coach or D1 player if it makes a difference. I guarantee they will say it does.
Too many of you guys hang your hat to closely to the team. If these guys gave up it would be one thing but as I saw it they hustled hard and lost to a team that hustled hard and hit a ton of 3s. Let's for once get past the JL coach thing and wait until the end of the season to pick it up. This on both sides is starting to get really old. If we were breaking down plays that woul be one thing.
BTW...The refs blew more then 2 calls. Right off hand I can tell you 5:
- JE charging play in which we were getting a ton of momentum
- WE phantom call from a ref on the other side which took him out for the rest of the 1/2
- SM charging call that would have been one of the worst I have seen if not for the JE charge
- Non-call against TB where he went up for a shot and was hacked multiple times
- SS playing great D being shoved by a shoulder, he then tips the ball and is called out of bounds. Another call not made!