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Wilkins: Chances on being a Brave?

I have no clue really...but the agreement with the verbal seemd like...when you are available you get to play.....that is why he chose BU..nothing has changed that I am aware ....
 
He can't be admitted to the university without his papers. Without being admitted to the university, he can't be cleared academically by the NCAA. Without him being admitted or cleared, he can't play.
 
BradleyBrave said:
He can't be admitted to the university without his papers. Without being admitted to the university, he can't be cleared academically by the NCAA. Without him being admitted or cleared, he can't play.
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Is it in that order?
Bradley can theoretically (private institution) admit anyone it wants, regardless of test scores/grades. Now the BU leadership wants the most sucessful alumni, so they have guidelines for general admission.
I thought, to prevent abuses the NCAA has a "more uniform" athletic admittance process. and that NCAA process must be followed before you can compete.

But if JW took classes, he'd have to pay himself, or get a scholarship/grants, and I think a non-athletic scholarship would mean a red-shirt (like DA who needed the medical but also received academic scholarships).. It will be interesting to see what happens when classes start..

Or is it technically Bradley cannot admit him until he receives NCAA clearance because admission would require sitting out a year like Ruff (who had the grades but not a (validated)) ACT?
 
ph is right. He could be admitted to BU, but his family would have to pay tuition and expenses. He could not participate in any team activities, and by doing so, his "clock" would not start, meaning he would still have 5 years to complete 4 years of play once he does become eligible.

The first day of classes for the 2nd semester is January 21, but a student can still enroll late.
 
Just curious - Would it be illegal in the eyes of the NCAA if a booster were to facilitate this by taking it upon himself to go get these things & deliver them to the Clearinghouse?

I'd guess that there are some retired BU boosters with lots of time on their hands that would be willing to run to Belgium to pick up the transcripts. Probably would even be willing to do it on their own dime. I'm just not sure if that would be "legal" in the eyes of the NCAA as it has to do with a new recruit.
 
Nice thought, but the NCAA does not accept academic material unless it's delivered directly from the initial source. If they did, the Wilkins family or Bradley could have arranged for it to have been at the NCAA weeks ago.

And, yes, the first day of classes for the 2nd semester is Jan. 21. But a student can still be enrolled up to 10-14 days past that date.
 
romar said:
Just curious - Would it be illegal in the eyes of the NCAA if a booster were to facilitate this by taking it upon himself to go get these things & deliver them to the Clearinghouse?

I'd guess that there are some retired BU boosters with lots of time on their hands that would be willing to run to Belgium to pick up the transcripts. Probably would even be willing to do it on their own dime. I'm just not sure if that would be "legal" in the eyes of the NCAA as it has to do with a new recruit.
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I'm just guessing, but that might be a violation since Wilkins hasn't signed a letter of intent. Technically, he's still recruitable by anyone else, so Bradley couldn't do anything beyond what it is normally able to do for a recruit like official visits and other contacts.

If anything like that is to happen, it's got to come out of the Wilkins family's pocket. And I'm not sure if this is even allowed by the NCAA since they explicitly want to receive transcripts directly from the school/government.
 
Da Coach said:
ph is right. He could be admitted to BU, but his family would have to pay tuition and expenses. He could not participate in any team activities, and by doing so, his "clock" would not start, meaning he would still have 5 years to complete 4 years of play once he does become eligible.

The first day of classes for the 2nd semester is January 21, but a student can still enroll late.
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Could Wilkins be awarded a scholarship retroactively? That is, let's say he enrolls as a student and takes out some loans. He starts classes with everyone else. Then the NCAA finally approves his eligibility as a player. Could Coach Les then give him a scholarship, which can then be used to pay back the loans Wilkins took out?

I seem to remember Coach Les awarding Ryan Phillips a scholarship for a semester for his hard work. But this was after the semester was well underway or close to ending.
 
Da Coach said:
Nice thought, but the NCAA does not accept academic material unless it's delivered directly from the initial source. If they did, the Wilkins family or Bradley could have arranged for it to have been at the NCAA weeks ago.

And, yes, the first day of classes for the 2nd semester is Jan. 21. But a student can still be enrolled up to 10-14 days past that date.
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I would not think it would be the case in Belgium, and would open up a can of worms with the NCAA, but there are countries in which it is customary to give government officials a gratuity (it's called a bribe, or "buying a senate seat" here) in advance for providing prompt service. Such practices hamper companies that wish to operate ethically...
 
Let's say he finally gets cleared sometime in the spring, but it's too late to play this season. Why wouldn't he want to play for BU in the fall? With Theron and SS gone, immediate playing time would be highly probable...
 
ser_solace said:
Could Wilkins be awarded a scholarship retroactively?
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Yes, in the scenario you presented, he could enroll, take classes, pay his own way, and then when cleared by the NCAA, he could join the team and begin practicing. He would then have to sit out the 5 games. This possibility has been considered, and if they were reasonably sure the clearance would be soon, it might happen.
 
So far, I view this as a non-story.... The Belgian goverment is a mess, we are dealing with a bureaucracy with their educational system, and we are in the middle of a holiday season. As the Mark Twain version of the saying goes, "there's more than one way to skin a cat". (more than one way to get what we all want) As some of the posters have already stated, I think that we will do everything we can above board to get Wilkins registered and attending classes at Bradley. If I remember correctly, Wilkins has the qualifying test scores in this country. Once Wilkins is registered here, we have more time to get the transcript mess cleared and his eligibility clock for the NCAA is still not running.
 
Well I really hope your sources are wrong. I have been feeling it may be that way. I don't like that we are not having that good of season. He can look at our team and say i made a mistake. I think things would be way different next year with our incoming recruits and AW back.
 
Am I missing something? If he's never cleared academically to register in a US college, then he'll never don any kind of uniform.

So honestly, the flight risk is minimal in terms of losing him to another school. Where would he go? Directly to the NBA? No. Europe? Maybe, but my bet is he knows the fastest route for his career is through college.
 
lake Camelot said:
Well I really hope your sources are wrong. I have been feeling it may be that way. I don't like that we are not having that good of season. He can look at our team and say i made a mistake. I think things would be way different next year with our incoming recruits and AW back.
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If he doesnt play for BU, he doesnt play ANYWHERE. He's not cleared, period!
 
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