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  • #16
    Yeah, I'm reserving judgment on the rebounding until we see TB back in the lineup for a game or two. If it stays weak after that I'm going to start to worry.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by SFP View Post
      AW needs to step up sooner. I personally would like to see him touch the ball every time we have the ball!
      I definately agree with this SFP. Just like the offense revolved around Hawk, A. Parker, and other former Braves studs it needs to start with AW. BU NEEDS to find a way to make AW a star. I think a mid-major team almost always needs to have one star player to have a successful season. We need to get back to the days of having a team leader who averages 20+ ppg.

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      • #18
        We played 4 guards?


        What does everyone expect?



        Our rebounder will be back next Sunday and we should get better both offensively and defensively.

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        • #19
          I guess I've seen this story happen too many times to think that getting TB back is going to solve Bradley's rebounding problems.

          What happens when TB is on the bench? The guy is aggressive and around the ball alot. He's going to pick up fouls.

          Rebounding has been the nemesis of this program since O'Bryant left early. Those 21-22 win seasons would have been better with just an extra rebounder or two.
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          • #20
            Just to set the record straight, I wasn't trying to be negative with my comment about the 4 guard offense. Most of the offensive rebounds I saw were by the big man who was being guarded by Warren or Roberts which they were getting out muscled for because they just aren't big enough to rebound against guys like that.

            I'm glad Taylor Brown will be back at the 4 for us. What I'm more worried about is who's going to play the other 10-15 minutes at the 4 position for us when Taylor Brown is out of the game. I'm hoping it will be Milo. It can work exactly like Theron Wilson and Taylor Brown worked last year, 25-30 minutes for Brown, 10-15 for Milo.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Majik45 View Post
              We are going to continue to have rebounding problems until Coach Les stops playing his 4 guard offense. Andrew Warren and Chris Roberts can't rebound against guys 4 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier. I really hope we start playing Taylor Brown at the 4 along with Milo instead of Roberts and Warren.
              I am with maj 100%, and not having Taylor Brown is no excuse. There's not one reason that SS and WE couldn't play at the same time. Not one. It doesn't take a basketball savant to understand that when you play 4 guys 6'4" and under in Division I basketball, you're going to lose on the boards. I've seen high school teams put more size on the floor than we had yesterday. It nearly cost us a game.
              Onward and Upward!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by it's boogie time View Post
                I guess I've seen this story happen too many times to think that getting TB back is going to solve Bradley's rebounding problems.

                What happens when TB is on the bench? The guy is aggressive and around the ball alot. He's going to pick up fouls.

                Rebounding has been the nemesis of this program since O'Bryant left early. Those 21-22 seasons would have been better with just an extra rebounder or two.
                Back to the same O, same O, 4 guards Its not that we don't have bigs that could play the 4 also but it's JL choice to play guards So unless all these guards realize that it's their job to hit the boards also, not just to watch or launch shots, there will always be a rebounding problem with this team

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by bradleybrave View Post
                  i am with maj 100%, and not having taylor brown is no excuse. There's not one reason that ss and we couldn't play at the same time. Not one. It doesn't take a basketball savant to understand that when you play 4 guys 6'4" and under in division i basketball, you're going to lose on the boards. I've seen high school teams put more size on the floor than we had yesterday. It nearly cost us a game.
                  you bet 100% in agreement here

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Out of Balance View Post
                    Back to the same O, same O, 4 guards Its not that we don't have bigs that could play the 4 also but it's JL choice to play guards So unless all these guards realize that it's their job to hit the boards also, not just to watch or launch shots, there will always be a rebounding problem with this team
                    On the radio show this AM, Dan asked JL about playing one of our other 3 bigs as backup at the 4. JL said that he is very unhappy with the current (lack of) production from WE, SS and AT, so there is essentially no reason to reward that with more total minutes at the 4

                    He also mentioned that as a team we have spend a great deal of time on box-out drills and then a game comes and we forget and let ourselves get pushed around..

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ph View Post
                      He also mentioned that as a team we have spend a great deal of time on box-out drills and then a game comes and we forget and let ourselves get pushed around..
                      Sounds like lip service to me. A player who's still on the roster told me a few years ago that they never work on rebounding in practice, that they don't box out, and just try to outjump people. Granted, this was a few years ago, but the proof is in the pudding on the court year after year. But I will add that a bunch of guys 6'4" or shorter aren't going to outrebound too many people whether they're boxing out or not.
                      Onward and Upward!

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                      • #26
                        a bunch of 6'4 guys, when boxing out properly, are going to get their fair share of boards, but not as many as a couple 6'9" and taller guys who are boxing out properly. The whole team needs to box out. And they need to follow their shots. I saw a certain guard start running back a few times after releasing his long jumper, only to have the ball go to where he was. If a guy doesn't have the energy to crash the boards then hustle back on defense, perhaps he should get a couple more breathers during the game.

                        I'd really like to see AT play some time at the 4, where his slender frame won't be such a liability. I do understand coach's statement about not wanting to reward guys with PT when they don't earn it, but I don't feel confident we can shoot 50% from the 3 point line as consistently as we'd need to while being at such a rebounding disadvantage.

                        TB coming back will help, a lot. But games where he's in foul trouble, we'll be facing this problem again.

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                        • #27
                          I agree with the posters in regard to everyone boxing out. TB will help but all five need to box out when necessary.......

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by BuAlum03 View Post
                            a bunch of 6'4 guys, when boxing out properly, are going to get their fair share of boards
                            And will also help the other team get into foul trouble with over the back calls.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ph View Post
                              On the radio show this AM, Dan asked JL about playing one of our other 3 bigs as backup at the 4. JL said that he is very unhappy with the current (lack of) production from WE, SS and AT, so there is essentially no reason to reward that with more total minutes at the 4

                              He also mentioned that as a team we have spend a great deal of time on box-out drills and then a game comes and we forget and let ourselves get pushed around..
                              Ha, he is the coach. We been watching and talking about this problem for years now. If there is not a wanting to open new doors to correct the problem, then whats another year of talking about it and watching it Just happy for a win

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
                                I am with maj 100%, and not having Taylor Brown is no excuse. There's not one reason that SS and WE couldn't play at the same time. Not one. It doesn't take a basketball savant to understand that when you play 4 guys 6'4" and under in Division I basketball, you're going to lose on the boards. I've seen high school teams put more size on the floor than we had yesterday. It nearly cost us a game.
                                Agreed......and PLEASE stop playing SM, EM, and DSE at the same time! I've seen it in each of the first two games and really don't see the need for it at all!
                                ???People say, ???Forget last year', but I want our guys to remember that one, because that will not happen again. We will be much better.??? Geno Ford, 9/22/12

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