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tornado

tornado

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Let's talk college basketball....

the Paradise Jam has released it's schedule for its tournament that starts November 20, 2009.

Northern Iowa opens against DePaul of the Big East...and excellent chance to get a win against a BCS school!
Looks like the schedulers simply paired each BCS school with a non-BCS
school, probably figuring all the big guys will advance.
Ha....don't want to burst their bubble, but I doubt UNI is gonna lose to
DePaul, but maybe they knew DePaul was the worst of the BCS teams so
they are going to be gone anyway, so feed them to the Panthers!


2009 Paradise Jam Pairings

Friday, Nov. 20
Game 1 – DePaul vs. Northern Iowa (2 p.m. AST/Noon CST)
Game 2 – Tennessee vs. East Carolina (4:30 p.m. AST/2:30 p.m. CST)
Game 3 – Boston College vs. Saint Joseph’s (7 p.m. AST/5 p.m. CST)
Game 4 – Purdue vs. South Dakota State (9:30 p.m. AST/7:30 p.m. CST)

Saturday, Nov. 21
Game 5 – Loser of Game 1 vs. Loser of Game 2 (7 p.m. AST/5 p.m. CST)
Game 6 – Loser of Game 3 vs. Loser of Game 4 (9:30 p.m. AST/7:30 p.m. CST)

Sunday, Nov. 22
Game 7 – Winner of Game 1 vs. Winner of Game 2 (7 p.m. AST/5 p.m. CST)
Game 8 – Winner of Game 3 vs. Winner of Game 4 (9:30 p.m. AST/7:30 p.m. CST)

Monday, Nov. 23
Game 9 – Loser of Game 5 vs. Loser of Game 6 (2 p.m. AST/Noon CST)
Game 10 – Winner of Game 5 vs. Winner of Game 6 (4:30 p.m. AST/2:30 p.m. CST)
Game 11 – Loser of Game 7 vs. Loser of Game 8 (7 p.m. AST/5 p.m. CST)
Game 12 – Winner of Game 7 vs. Winner of Game 8 (9:30 p.m. AST/7:30 p.m. CST)


http://depaul.scout.com/2/861808.html
 
Purdue should win the Big Ten next year with Mich St a close 2nd. This is a great opportunity for UNI and the Valley to make some early noise. I'd suspect that Purdue will be a top 10 (possible 5) team starting off the season.
 
How good Tennessee will be largely depends on the decision of Tyler Smith. If he comes back, he and Wayne Chism will make it hard on UNI.
 
tornado said:

Ha....don't want to burst their bubble, but I doubt UNI is gonna lose to
DePaul, but maybe they knew DePaul was the worst of the BCS teams so
they are going to be gone anyway, so feed them to the Panthers!
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If it were a true conspiracy, they shoulda gave UNI to the toughest BCS team and sent St Joe's against Depaul. Having the A10 and an eastern school advance woulda been better for them.
 
SFP said:
Purdue should win the Big Ten next year with Mich St a close 2nd.
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I'll let you off the hook since you are living way out on the West Coast and don't really have a finger on the pulse of the B10 like we Mid-Westerners do... UIUC is gonna win the B10. ;)
 
MacabreMob said:
I'll let you off the hook since you are living way out on the West Coast and don't really have a finger on the pulse of the B10 like we Mid-Westerners do... UIUC is gonna win the B10. ;)
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You mean like they were going to really compete for the title this year!;-)

They are two years away from being real good though. Right when I hope we play them.
 
MacabreMob said:
I'll let you off the hook since you are living way out on the West Coast and don't really have a finger on the pulse of the B10 like we Mid-Westerners do... UIUC is gonna win the B10. ;)
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After we beat them in Vegas, I can only hope they go on to win the B10! :D
 
The pairings are based on the previous season's final RPI. I'm not sure which one was chosen (RealTimeRPI, Warren Nolan, Palm, Pomeroy, etc...), but I know that UNI ended up being seeded 3rd. Purdue finished 1, Tennessee 2, UNI 3, BC 4, St. Joes 5, DePaul 6, etc...

We were watching this closely as BC and UNI were very close in the final RPI numbers. Again, I'm not sure which source they used.
 
PTTB said:
The pairings are based on the previous season's final RPI. I'm not sure which one was chosen (RealTimeRPI, Warren Nolan, Palm, Pomeroy, etc...), but I know that UNI ended up being seeded 3rd. Purdue finished 1, Tennessee 2, UNI 3, BC 4, St. Joes 5, DePaul 6, etc...

We were watching this closely as BC and UNI were very close in the final RPI numbers. Again, I'm not sure which source they used.
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Wow.

Interesting.

Thanks PTTB.

Just in case anyone was wondering, Palm's site had UNI at 59th and BC at 60th (Ratings of .5714 and .5711). That's pretty close.
 
electricmayhem said:
How good Tennessee will be largely depends on the decision of Tyler Smith. If he comes back, he and Wayne Chism will make it hard on UNI.
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yes...but they will still have the same two major problems they had this year...and they lost 13 games...I know they play a tough schedule, but when BU loses 13 games, everyone seems to say then it wipes out any positive effect of winning 21, wespecially ina very weak SEC.
They have a full stable of 4-star and 5-star players but they are undisciplined, take terrible shots with 29 seconds left on the shot clock, and don't like playing defense unless it can get on the highlight reels.
They also will be very shallow at the PG spot again.
 
QUOTE=tornado "Let's talk college basketball....

2009.

Northern Iowa opens against DePaul of the Big East...and excellent chance to get a win against a BCS school!"




Thanks for the info, but DePaul is not a BCS school. Neither are Providence, SetonHall, or St. John's for that matter.

BCS is a football term. Just because half the schools from the Big East Basketball conference play division I football, that doesn't make DePaul a BCS school does it?

If it does, the REAL BCS schools should be ashamed. I would rather have a win over a quality mid-major than a W against DePaul.

Ryan
 
Clarification.....

in the context, and for any and all basketball topics, we use the term "BCS" for "major conference school"...
you know...one of the big guys that conspire to grab a disproportionate share of the revenue,
while getting favored treatment from NCAA especially when (as it does indeed often happen) they get caught cheating.
 
tornado said:
yes...but they will still have the same two major problems they had this year...and they lost 13 games...I know they play a tough schedule, but when BU loses 13 games, everyone seems to say then it wipes out any positive effect of winning 21, wespecially ina very weak SEC.
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Here is Bradley's record over the last four years.....

______________Overall__________Valley___
2008-2009____22-14___.611_____10-8___.556
2007-2008____21-17___.553______9-9___.500
2006-2007____22-13___.629_____10-8___.556
2005-2006____22-11___.667_____11-7___.611

I don't think anyone, let alone everyone, is compaining about the overall 2006-2007 season, which is the last time Bradley won 21 and only lost 13. I personally don't believe 21-17 is a great record. All things considered, I have absolutely no problem with the other overall season records. However, more important to me is conference record and I would love to see us finish a couple games over .500 and I believe those days are coming real soon!
 
peoriakid said:
Thanks for the info, but DePaul is not a BCS school. Neither are Providence, SetonHall, or St. John's for that matter.

BCS is a football term. Just because half the schools from the Big East Basketball conference play division I football, that doesn't make DePaul a BCS school does it?

If it does, the REAL BCS schools should be ashamed. I would rather have a win over a quality mid-major than a W against DePaul.

Ryan
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I happen to agree and I hate the "BCS" term. I'm not sure when it started referring to college basketball, but that just doesn't make sense. I would also rather have a W over Memphis than DePaul! ;-)
 
I don't know about others, but I prefer to use the term 'BCS conference school(s)' when referring to teams that are in the Big East, Big Ten, Big XII, SEC, Pac-10, and ACC. I hate the terms major and mid-major, b/c there is rarely a term to low major...so there ends up being a stigma of schools in the A-10, MWC, MVC, etc... that are lumped in with the SWAC and Summit and Patriot. There seems to be a fine line b/t the 'Big Six' conferences and the rest, but for some reason no one wants to (or cares?) to place a line b/t the mids and the lows. That way it's just easier to differentiate what I am talking about when referring to the schools that play in BCS football conferences, as simply 'BCS conference schools'.

I hope that sounds right... :)
 
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