BUrednwhite
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Has anyone heard about this College Basketball Invitational? Just wondering about Bradley and the postseason. It was mentioned in the PJStar.
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We've had some discussion on it. Here's the original thread, though there have been others: http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=5684
Here's the tournament website: http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/index_main.htm
By the way, if Bradley makes it, the TV situation doesn't look that great. Looks to me like the premium Fox College Sports channel is televising most of the games (according to http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/schedule.htm).
Here's the tournament website: http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/index_main.htm
By the way, if Bradley makes it, the TV situation doesn't look that great. Looks to me like the premium Fox College Sports channel is televising most of the games (according to http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/schedule.htm).
MacabreMob
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IMO, I don't think BU gets invited. Had we won 1 game in St Louis, we'd be in a lot better shape to be considered. It all depends. There is a lot of basketball to be played this week.
There is the squeeze on the NCAA bubble (like San Diego winning the WCC Tourney). There is the squeeze on the NIT bubble (like Robert Morris losing in the Northeast Conference Tourney - Conference winners that don't get NCAA at-large bids are guaranteed NIT bids). So this all squeezes the CBI. And then it depends on whether some teams turn down bids to either the NIT (in favor of the CBI) or the CBI (which may invite a team with a losing record and maybe that team doesn't want to play any postseason, which I doubt will happen).
So the question is.... who will be the 1st team left out? Who will be #114?
Right now, I think Bradley is about 5 spots behind #113 in the pecking order. But things still have to play out. You never know what may happen.... but don't sit around expecting a bid.
There is the squeeze on the NCAA bubble (like San Diego winning the WCC Tourney). There is the squeeze on the NIT bubble (like Robert Morris losing in the Northeast Conference Tourney - Conference winners that don't get NCAA at-large bids are guaranteed NIT bids). So this all squeezes the CBI. And then it depends on whether some teams turn down bids to either the NIT (in favor of the CBI) or the CBI (which may invite a team with a losing record and maybe that team doesn't want to play any postseason, which I doubt will happen).
So the question is.... who will be the 1st team left out? Who will be #114?
Right now, I think Bradley is about 5 spots behind #113 in the pecking order. But things still have to play out. You never know what may happen.... but don't sit around expecting a bid.
houstontxbrave
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Couple things,
Do we get to keep practicing until the decision for this tournament is made?
If we are invited, does JL give any minutes to Salley? Not to single him out, but if we do play he will play JC and Ruffin for certain, but Salley sucks up minutes that can be given to someone who likely will be counted on next season.
I do not believe we will be invited nor do I really believe that we even deserve an invitation but if we can play more games that can only be a positive thing for the program.
Do we get to keep practicing until the decision for this tournament is made?
If we are invited, does JL give any minutes to Salley? Not to single him out, but if we do play he will play JC and Ruffin for certain, but Salley sucks up minutes that can be given to someone who likely will be counted on next season.
I do not believe we will be invited nor do I really believe that we even deserve an invitation but if we can play more games that can only be a positive thing for the program.
You may continue practicing through Selection Sunday and beyond if you are participating in any of the postseason events.
I know BU administrators would rather the season be over so as to not further delay the tearing down of the Fieldhouse. The longer the men's season goes--the further back demolition and construction gets pushed back.
That said, the CBI will be solely about money, and financially BU may be too good for them to pass up, and vice versa.
I've been told by someone who's seen it that the contract for the CBI states schools get 60% of their gate and the remaining 40% goes to the organizers.
That said, while I would like to see BU participate, I only want them to go with home games for the first two rounds. I only want them to participate if they have a favorable situation to win the thing.
I do not believe Bradley will have the option of asking who are the other teams in the CBI, or whether they would be given a home game.
If they get a call Sunday night they will have the choice of saying yes or no. From there, the CBI will determine who they play and whether they get a home game (BU has already submitted available dates). I am sure they will say yes, if invited.
If they get a call Sunday night they will have the choice of saying yes or no. From there, the CBI will determine who they play and whether they get a home game (BU has already submitted available dates). I am sure they will say yes, if invited.
BradleyBrave
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The home games are at Carver, are they not? So why would we want to go with home games for the first two rounds only, if we are lucky enough to get the better seed? If the Admin. does not want us practicing at Roberston, we can find another place. I hope we get in this tournament, it would be beter than most preseason tournaments and if we ran it, it would be a big boost going into next year. What I understand is the final two play a 2 out of 3 series, if Bradley were to have the higher seed at that time it's possible that we could have 2 more home games at Carver. I hope we get in
BU said in the paper that they have a conflict with the Peoria Civic Center in scheduling a potential 3rd round home game.
MacabreMob
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You make a good point, but....
Going into the season, I think everyone budgeted their time around the men's team likely being in the postseason. So sure, they would like to get started earlier than later... but I don't think they knew they could start earlier and then darn it... the men's team is holding us up.
Btw, the women's MVCT starts Thursday.... not exactly sure when they leave/left for St Louis, but they needed someplace to practice too. And although very unlikely, they could win the MVCT and need a place to practice til the NCAA Tourney as well.
You make a good point, but....
Going into the season, I think everyone budgeted their time around the men's team likely being in the postseason. So sure, they would like to get started earlier than later... but I don't think they knew they could start earlier and then darn it... the men's team is holding us up.
Btw, the women's MVCT starts Thursday.... not exactly sure when they leave/left for St Louis, but they needed someplace to practice too. And although very unlikely, they could win the MVCT and need a place to practice til the NCAA Tourney as well.
They have several timelines they are working with. In January, they were moving forward with the timeline that assumed no postseason. However, in February they had to slow down.
You make a good point, but....
Going into the season, I think everyone budgeted their time around the men's team likely being in the postseason. So sure, they would like to get started earlier than later... but I don't think they knew they could start earlier and then darn it... the men's team is holding us up.
Btw, the women's MVCT starts Thursday.... not exactly sure when they leave/left for St Louis, but they needed someplace to practice too. And although very unlikely, they could win the MVCT and need a place to practice til the NCAA Tourney as well.
If Bradley had made the NCAA Tournament, no one would care that the demolition of the fieldhouse would be delayed.
I for one though still think any postseason is better than nothing, and will only help our returning players next year.
MacabreMob
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Here is just a rough list of bubble teams. 18 are going to the NCAA. 32 will wind up in the NIT leaving 16 more for the CBI. If just going down the list in RPI order, BU makes the cut. But then again, there are about 6-7 teams on this list that will get an NIT auto bid if they lose their conf tourney.
Anyway, listed by yesterday's RPI, then team, then Conference record followed by overall record.
29 Gonzaga 13-1/25-6
27 Kent 13-3/25-6
29 UNLV 12-4/23-7
31 Az 8-10/18-13
33 Bayl 9-7/21-9
34 ISU 13-5/24-9
35 Dayton 8-8/20-9
37 Miss St 12-4/21-9
38 S Ala 16-2/26-6
39 WVU 11-7/22-9
40 UMass 10-6/21-9
42 Miss 7-9/21-9
43 Ark 9-7/20-10
44 Kans St 10-6/20-10
45 Syra 9-9/19-12
46 TxAM 8-8/22-9
47 OSU 10-8/19-12
48 Ky 12-4/18-11
49 UAB 12-4/22-9
50 WKy 16-2/25-6
51 Creight 10-8/21-10
52 Ore 9-9/18-12
53 VCU 15-3/24-7
54 UNM 11-5/24-7
55 St Joe's 9-7/18-11
56 Villa 9-9/19-11
57 Va Tech 9-7/18-12
58 SFA 13-3/25-4
59 Temple 11-5/18-12
60 SIU 11-7/17-14
61 Tx Tech 7-9/16-14
62 ORU 16-2/22-8
63 Fl St 7-9/18-13
65 Fla 8-8/21-10
66 URI 7-9/21-10
67 Hou 11-5/22-8
69 Ohio 9-7/19-11
70 Md 8-8/18-13
71 Cleve St 12-6/21-11
72 Utah St 12-4/23-9
73 Ga Tech 7-9/14-16
74 Az St 9-9/19-11
75 IUPUI 15-3/25-6
76 Nevada 12-4/20-10
79 UCSB 12-4/23-7
80 SD St 9-7/19-11
81 Mia-Oh 9-7/15-14
83 Ok St 7-9/16-14
84 Wright St 12-6/21-10
85 Akron 11-5/21-9
86 Charl 9-7/18-12
87 WF 7-9/17-12
88 UMBC 13-3/23-8
89 SamHou 10-6/22-7
90 CS-Nor 12-4/21-8
91 American 10-4/20-11
92 NC St 4-12/15-15
93 Cal 6-12/15-14
94 Valpo 9-9/21-13
95 Port St 14-2/21-9
97 Nebr 7-9/18-11
98 Prov 6-12/15-15
99 Minny 8-10/18-12
100 SH 7-11/17-14
102 BU 9-9/17-15
103 Utah 7-9/16-13
104 Mizzoo 6-10/16-15
107 CS-Ful 12-4/20-9
108 Va 5-11/15-14
109 Wash 7-11/16-15
112 Duq 7-9/17-12
113 Cincy 8-10/13-17
115 Rich 9-7/16-13
117 Ala 5-11/16-15
118 W Mich 12-4/19-11
119 S Miss 9-7/17-13
122 St louis 7-9/16-14
125 UNI 9-9/18-14
126 Morgan St 14-2/20-9
134 Rt Morris 16-2/26-7
143 UNC-Ash 10-4/23-9
161 AF 8-8/16-13
194 Ala St 15-3/19-9
Anyway, listed by yesterday's RPI, then team, then Conference record followed by overall record.
29 Gonzaga 13-1/25-6
27 Kent 13-3/25-6
29 UNLV 12-4/23-7
31 Az 8-10/18-13
33 Bayl 9-7/21-9
34 ISU 13-5/24-9
35 Dayton 8-8/20-9
37 Miss St 12-4/21-9
38 S Ala 16-2/26-6
39 WVU 11-7/22-9
40 UMass 10-6/21-9
42 Miss 7-9/21-9
43 Ark 9-7/20-10
44 Kans St 10-6/20-10
45 Syra 9-9/19-12
46 TxAM 8-8/22-9
47 OSU 10-8/19-12
48 Ky 12-4/18-11
49 UAB 12-4/22-9
50 WKy 16-2/25-6
51 Creight 10-8/21-10
52 Ore 9-9/18-12
53 VCU 15-3/24-7
54 UNM 11-5/24-7
55 St Joe's 9-7/18-11
56 Villa 9-9/19-11
57 Va Tech 9-7/18-12
58 SFA 13-3/25-4
59 Temple 11-5/18-12
60 SIU 11-7/17-14
61 Tx Tech 7-9/16-14
62 ORU 16-2/22-8
63 Fl St 7-9/18-13
65 Fla 8-8/21-10
66 URI 7-9/21-10
67 Hou 11-5/22-8
69 Ohio 9-7/19-11
70 Md 8-8/18-13
71 Cleve St 12-6/21-11
72 Utah St 12-4/23-9
73 Ga Tech 7-9/14-16
74 Az St 9-9/19-11
75 IUPUI 15-3/25-6
76 Nevada 12-4/20-10
79 UCSB 12-4/23-7
80 SD St 9-7/19-11
81 Mia-Oh 9-7/15-14
83 Ok St 7-9/16-14
84 Wright St 12-6/21-10
85 Akron 11-5/21-9
86 Charl 9-7/18-12
87 WF 7-9/17-12
88 UMBC 13-3/23-8
89 SamHou 10-6/22-7
90 CS-Nor 12-4/21-8
91 American 10-4/20-11
92 NC St 4-12/15-15
93 Cal 6-12/15-14
94 Valpo 9-9/21-13
95 Port St 14-2/21-9
97 Nebr 7-9/18-11
98 Prov 6-12/15-15
99 Minny 8-10/18-12
100 SH 7-11/17-14
102 BU 9-9/17-15
103 Utah 7-9/16-13
104 Mizzoo 6-10/16-15
107 CS-Ful 12-4/20-9
108 Va 5-11/15-14
109 Wash 7-11/16-15
112 Duq 7-9/17-12
113 Cincy 8-10/13-17
115 Rich 9-7/16-13
117 Ala 5-11/16-15
118 W Mich 12-4/19-11
119 S Miss 9-7/17-13
122 St louis 7-9/16-14
125 UNI 9-9/18-14
126 Morgan St 14-2/20-9
134 Rt Morris 16-2/26-7
143 UNC-Ash 10-4/23-9
161 AF 8-8/16-13
194 Ala St 15-3/19-9
It used to rotate amongst willing league members hosting. It had been held at Drake, MSU, and ISU over the years.
However, this season it moved to a neutral site at St. Charles, MO for the first time.
MacabreMob
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Rest of the hopefuls on postseason:
101 Boise St 12-4/22-8
105 Brown 11-3/19-9
106 UTEP 8-8/17-12
111 Rider 13-5/23-9
114 Marist 11-7/18-14
116 Nia 12-6/19-10
121 NM St 12-4/19-13
123 Mo St 8-10/17-16
124 Pacific 11-5/21-9
127 InSt 8-10/15-16
128 ODU 11-7/17-15
131 Tulsa 8-8/17-12
132 Marsh 8-8/16-13
133 UNCW 12-6/20-13
135 MTnSt 11-7/16-14
136 BC 4-12/13-16
137 Illini 5-13/13-18
138 UIC 9-9/18-15
139 S Carol 5-11/13-17
140 NTex 10-8/20-11
144 Loy-Md 12-6/19-14
146 Lamar 13-3/19-10
148 Penn St 7-11/15-15
149 WiGB 9-9/15-15
150 UCF 9-7/16-14
152 Ga 4-12/13-16
153 St J's 5-13/11-19
154 Aub 4-12/14-15
155 Wm&M 10-8/17-15
156 Depaul 6-12/11-19
159 LSU 6-10/13-17
163 Fordham 6-10/12-16
164 LaSalle 8-8/14-16
166 Colo 3-13/11-19
168 SFla 3-15/12-19
169 Ia St 4-12/14-17
173 UALR 11-7/20-10
174 Tulane 6-10/16-14
175 ULLaf 11-7/15-15
177 WiMil 9-9/14-16
181 Mich 5-13/9-21
184 Iowa 6-12/13-18
185 C Mich 8-8/13-16
186 GW 5-11/9-17
200 Wich St 4-14/11-20
202 Wyo 5-11/12-17
204 TCU 6-10/14-15
208 Rutgers 3-15/11-20
214 NWrn 1-17/8-21
221 Loy 6-12/12-19
226 Ytwon 5-13/9-21
234 E mich 8-8/13-16
251 E Carol 5-11/11-18
252 EU 3-15/9-21
259 StBonny 2-14/8-22
263 SMU 4-12/10-19
264 Ore St 0-18/6-24
273 Colo St 0-16/6-24
286 Detroit 3-15/7-23
297 Rice 0-16/3-26
101 Boise St 12-4/22-8
105 Brown 11-3/19-9
106 UTEP 8-8/17-12
111 Rider 13-5/23-9
114 Marist 11-7/18-14
116 Nia 12-6/19-10
121 NM St 12-4/19-13
123 Mo St 8-10/17-16
124 Pacific 11-5/21-9
127 InSt 8-10/15-16
128 ODU 11-7/17-15
131 Tulsa 8-8/17-12
132 Marsh 8-8/16-13
133 UNCW 12-6/20-13
135 MTnSt 11-7/16-14
136 BC 4-12/13-16
137 Illini 5-13/13-18
138 UIC 9-9/18-15
139 S Carol 5-11/13-17
140 NTex 10-8/20-11
144 Loy-Md 12-6/19-14
146 Lamar 13-3/19-10
148 Penn St 7-11/15-15
149 WiGB 9-9/15-15
150 UCF 9-7/16-14
152 Ga 4-12/13-16
153 St J's 5-13/11-19
154 Aub 4-12/14-15
155 Wm&M 10-8/17-15
156 Depaul 6-12/11-19
159 LSU 6-10/13-17
163 Fordham 6-10/12-16
164 LaSalle 8-8/14-16
166 Colo 3-13/11-19
168 SFla 3-15/12-19
169 Ia St 4-12/14-17
173 UALR 11-7/20-10
174 Tulane 6-10/16-14
175 ULLaf 11-7/15-15
177 WiMil 9-9/14-16
181 Mich 5-13/9-21
184 Iowa 6-12/13-18
185 C Mich 8-8/13-16
186 GW 5-11/9-17
200 Wich St 4-14/11-20
202 Wyo 5-11/12-17
204 TCU 6-10/14-15
208 Rutgers 3-15/11-20
214 NWrn 1-17/8-21
221 Loy 6-12/12-19
226 Ytwon 5-13/9-21
234 E mich 8-8/13-16
251 E Carol 5-11/11-18
252 EU 3-15/9-21
259 StBonny 2-14/8-22
263 SMU 4-12/10-19
264 Ore St 0-18/6-24
273 Colo St 0-16/6-24
286 Detroit 3-15/7-23
297 Rice 0-16/3-26
BradleyBrave
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I may be changing my mind on wanting to play in the postseason. If BU could get a shot at either Maryland or Syracuse (or a team of the like), I would want to play. Seeing Syracuse get waxed by 20 to open the Big East Tournament just rekindled my desire to see BU beat one of these coaching 'elitists'. I realize that Syracuse is likely heading to the NIT and BU will be lucky to sniff the CBI (all the more reason I was p-ssed off after the 1st CU loss), but one can hope can't they?
I have neve liked the 'cuse either. It seems as if evey year, the orange play at least 20 games either at home or in the state of New York.
BradleyBrave
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The more and more I think about it, it's going to be a disgrace if we don't get into the CBI. If we get any type of injury credit at all (missing at least one starting guard for over half the conference season), we should be a lock. However, losing 3 straight to end the year doesn't help one bit. I hope BU is pleading their case to the CBI, even if the administration wants to end this thing so the Fieldhouse can come down. There are several games on TV, and I would love to have at least one of them coming from Carver Arena. The brackets are going to be regional so there's a chance we would get to play a team that's relatively close. Let's play until April!
http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/index_main.htm
http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/schedule.htm
http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/cbi_bracket08.pdf
http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/index_main.htm
http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/schedule.htm
http://www.gazellegroup.com/cbi/cbi_bracket08.pdf
"The 16-team field will consist of teams that are not selected for the NCAA Tournament. Teams will be invited based upon their performance during their conference and non-conference schedule, as well as how well the team is playing at the end of the regular season."
if they put alot of weight into how well each team is playing at the end of the season then i do have my worries...
if they put alot of weight into how well each team is playing at the end of the season then i do have my worries...
BradleyBrave
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Well, we have to hope that they put some weight on us playing without Daniel Ruffin's 14 ppg/6 apg and Andrew Warren's 13 ppg for most of our 2nd half schedule. If they can point out our record when our team was whole (I believe it was 13-6), and assure the CBI that Warren will be playing, then talk about our recent success (Sweet 16, NIT), it will give the tournament a little bit of mid-major 'name' recognition. If BU truly wants to keep playing (the administration), then I am sure Bobby Parker is breaking out all of the numbers in our favor.
In terms of potential opponents, there are a number that I see as 'regional' possibilities. Nebraska, Missouri, Valpo, Wright St, IUPUI, Akron, Minnesota, and Western Michigan all look like potential opponents. I think we would outdraw most of them.
I know the CBI said that they wouldn't eliminate teams with a losing record, but I think the tournament would lose all credibility if it included them. There are just too many teams with winning records to do otherwise.