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Give Me A Break
- Thread starter Missouri Brave
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Thank you Joanne for your comments!!
As I said earlier, but it applies here:
Tip of the Iceberg... fellas... tip of the iceberg.
Wait a few months (and years) ...
AZ BU Fan
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Bet it won't be 9 years!
The "next year" for BU has always looked promising under JL...
At the risk of being no more repetitive than other posters here with different opinions, BU had 3 All-MVC preseason players on its roster before the start of last year, but none of the Valley media apparently thought the whole team, scheme, and coaching would be good enough for BU to finish higher than 5th this past year? In the current political rhetoric, that had to be unprecedented in Valley history, and somewhat telling IMHO.
The "next year" for BU has always looked promising under JL...
At the risk of being no more repetitive than other posters here with different opinions, BU had 3 All-MVC preseason players on its roster before the start of last year, but none of the Valley media apparently thought the whole team, scheme, and coaching would be good enough for BU to finish higher than 5th this past year? In the current political rhetoric, that had to be unprecedented in Valley history, and somewhat telling IMHO.
Missouri Brave
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Wow, great point, dude. On the money.
So it's right "on the money" to use preseason predictions to "prove" that Bradley would not have been very good this year with a healthy lineup, but anyone with a positive opinion about next year is discounted as "pure speculation"?
That seems to be the consistent "logic" of the anti-JL.
That seems to be the consistent "logic" of the anti-JL.
I'm not aniti anybody DC....I'm just saying we don't know for sure we would do well with healthy lineup(seems like we should) but I'm also saying we don't know if another coach wouldn't "come close" to doing as well as JL.....that's all..
Actually it's speculation both ways
Buesch N Chips
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Seems fair. Everyone's opinion is valid.
AZ BU Fan
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:lol:
Sure! That is what makes sports interesting, speculation and opinion. BU could have gone both ways under JL next season....
And there is always speculation I could win the Lottery next year:lol:
My point was before ANY injuries to any of the roster, with 3 all MVC pre season players, BU was not favored by the media to finish top 3.
WHY? What do some here see that us fans don't?
Total team competitiveness? BU Scheme? Other?
With JL and healthy BU next fall, but no DD and AW, how would non BU people's impressions of BU MBB change to a top 1-2 team in the Valley, NCAA/NIT bound, next year? Overzealous expectations of new recruits backfilling DD and AW?
The anti JL/BU bias or lazy/uniformed cards could be played on the media..but
I would fhave felt much better if a healthy, experienced, BU had been picked to finish a strong 2-3 in the MVC this past season and then finished .500 without SM and TB....Seems there had to be some major questions/reservations about BU overall competitiveness by folks in the business to pick BU so low last year with so much top end talent on the roster in SM, TB, and AW...
I apologize to keep bleating out, but, I keep reading other posters here that keep repeating their diasppointment on how BU would have done if JL had been kept another year.
Just never added up to me.
Hopefully time, and success, will heal all wounds and this Forum can get back to revelling in BU BB
Sure! That is what makes sports interesting, speculation and opinion. BU could have gone both ways under JL next season....
And there is always speculation I could win the Lottery next year:lol:
My point was before ANY injuries to any of the roster, with 3 all MVC pre season players, BU was not favored by the media to finish top 3.
WHY? What do some here see that us fans don't?
Total team competitiveness? BU Scheme? Other?
With JL and healthy BU next fall, but no DD and AW, how would non BU people's impressions of BU MBB change to a top 1-2 team in the Valley, NCAA/NIT bound, next year? Overzealous expectations of new recruits backfilling DD and AW?
The anti JL/BU bias or lazy/uniformed cards could be played on the media..but
I would fhave felt much better if a healthy, experienced, BU had been picked to finish a strong 2-3 in the MVC this past season and then finished .500 without SM and TB....Seems there had to be some major questions/reservations about BU overall competitiveness by folks in the business to pick BU so low last year with so much top end talent on the roster in SM, TB, and AW...
I apologize to keep bleating out, but, I keep reading other posters here that keep repeating their diasppointment on how BU would have done if JL had been kept another year.
Just never added up to me.
Hopefully time, and success, will heal all wounds and this Forum can get back to revelling in BU BB
Missouri Brave
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Couldn't agree with you more, my friend. On all counts. Go BU!
You couldn't be more wrong. I am sick and tired of people who think this uproar is only related to changes in the basketball program. If you ask me, and alot of my Bradley friends, alot of this recoil to her decisions has to do with so many of her previous decisions. You must have forgotten or don't know of all the different changes she has made at Bradley since her arrival. Replacing so many people in so many departments and areas at BU. Then you throw in the changes in the athletic dept (which get more publicity) and you have alot of upset folks.
Many of these changes involved people who worked at BU a long time and made it the great school it is today. Some of her changes were made to bring in her own people, some brought in personal friends, and some were made just for the sake of it.
Now we have the removal of a popular coach/alum whose firing was handled the wrong way according to alot of posters. Well Les is in the back of a long line. Based on what I know or have read about other firings/changes at Bradley it appears that is the way she handles things. Apparently alot of people and posters strongly disagree with her ways. I don't need to see the name calling but she has used up all her free passes.
And don't give me that "welcome to the real world" excuse. At some point people realize a bad decision is just that.
Braves4Life
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Based on what all of the "anti-administration" haters
have said, how many of you students would still choose BU as your college? And how many alumni would send their kids to "this" BU?*** My edit: This is a serious question since I will be faced with a college choice decision for a child in less than 4 years.
I have a problem of how the firing was leaked before even the season was over. I do not know enough on how it was done it just tells me that there was little consideration on the humanistic side of of the dealings behind the scene. I'm OK with this happening in the business world and professional sports but you would I would hope that the educational field would do things a bit different.
Based on what all of the "anti-administration" haters
*** My edit: This is a serious question since I will be faced with a college choice decision for a child in less than 4 years.
There's an area in LinkedIn that discusses this. I can say that BU has become considerably more conservative since I attended and I thought that could never happen.
You couldn't be more wrong. I am sick and tired of people who think this uproar is only related to changes in the basketball program. If you ask me, and alot of my Bradley friends, alot of this recoil to her decisions has to do with so many of her previous decisions. You must have forgotten or don't know of all the different changes she has made at Bradley since her arrival. Replacing so many people in so many departments and areas at BU. Then you throw in the changes in the athletic dept (which get more publicity) and you have alot of upset folks.
Many of these changes involved people who worked at BU a long time and made it the great school it is today. Some of her changes were made to bring in her own people, some brought in personal friends, and some were made just for the sake of it.
Now we have the removal of a popular coach/alum whose firing was handled the wrong way according to alot of posters. Well Les is in the back of a long line. Based on what I know or have read about other firings/changes at Bradley it appears that is the way she handles things. Apparently alot of people and posters strongly disagree with her ways. I don't need to see the name calling but she has used up all her free passes.
And don't give me that "welcome to the real world" excuse. At some point people realize a bad decision is just that.
Whatever happened to you have to earn respect to get it. Has JG or Cross been here long enough to earn it? I don't think so...Which doesn't necessarily mean that they won't eventually earn it.
Braves4Life
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Based on what all of the "anti-administration" haters
*** My edit: This is a serious question since I will be faced with a college choice decision for a child in less than 4 years.
I would go back with that new sports com major, but not again in a million years would I go back for history, the only professors I liked in the department the school failed to retain, and one retired. Nothing they can do about the guy retiring, but of the new hires brought in nobody I liked or connected with in anyway. I had 4 different academic advisors too, they just did not have their act together.
There's an area in LinkedIn that discusses this. I can say that BU has become considerably more conservative since I attended and I thought that could never happen.
That is the exact opposite of what I feel has happened from 2004 to now. I liked it a lot more when I started then when I left.
Though maybe you left coast guys would like the things I didn't.