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If you were coach- What would you do with open scholarship

Beninator said:
houstontxbrave said:
thefish7 said:
I don't really think it's appropriate to give it to a player for just one year...

Why?

If it is going unused and can be used to provide a years worth of free education for one of the athletes on the team, then there really should be no reason to not give the one year ride to a walk on.

I agree... Why not do this?????

Well, because it's not really fair to the other walkons is it?
 
Use the Schoolie if.........

A gem walks in the front door...regardless whether its a juco or a 4 year player.......

Surely there is a fine recruit that slipped through the recruiting mess.........

Just keep your eyes and ears open...if it happens it happens......
 
smitty said:
But I heard that the courses ICC steered him into are not ones that will transfer to Bradley with any credit. Even if he does complete coursework and graduate, I don't think he'll be eligible at Bradley. ICC has failed him.

I think a scholarship is too valuable to let sit idle. And there is no guarantee we will get the kids we're after for 2008 anyway. Some have already committed elsewhere like Freundt, and others are now above Bradley. I'd use the scholarship now for a juco who will help.

The way I understand as long as you get an associates degree you are still eligible, it may take you 5-6 years to graduate, but you're still eligible. I really don't mind the idea of holding it for 2008, but if DW becomes eligible offering it to him.
 
am- if a kid does not qualify out of high school, the NCAA requires that you graduate with a degree from the accreditated juco.
But recall that DeAaron was a qualifier out of high school. Therefore, he does not need to graduate from a juco (the way Lance Stemler was able to transfer to Bradley without graduating from SWIC). So he should be able to transfer to Bradley at any time if the NCAA rules were the only ones that were relevant here.
But each college has it's own different admission requirements. When DeAaron tried to transfer to Bradley in January of 2006, he didn't meet Bradley's admission requirements. He was denied admission then. So he went to ICC to try to get enough of the acceptable credits that would allow him to transfer to Bradley in good standing.

But from what I have heard, the staff at Bradley believes that even with completing the summer work he has lined up, he still will not meet admission requirements to Bradley. It is immaterial whether he gets his degree if he cannot get accepted to Bradley. He may still be eligible at another school, though.
 
Da Coach said:
am- if a kid does not qualify out of high school, the NCAA requires that you graduate with a degree from the accreditated juco.
But recall that DeAaron was a qualifier out of high school. Therefore, he does not need to graduate from a juco (the way Lance Stemler was able to transfer to Bradley without graduating from SWIC). So he should be able to transfer to Bradley at any time if the NCAA rules were the only ones that were relevant here.
But each college has it's own different admission requirements. When DeAaron tried to transfer to Bradley in January of 2006, he didn't meet Bradley's admission requirements. He was denied admission then. So he went to ICC to try to get enough of the acceptable credits that would allow him to transfer to Bradley in good standing. But from what I have heard, the staff at Bradley believes that even with completing the summer work he has lined up, he still will not meet admission requirements to Bradley. It is immaterial whether he gets his degree if he cannot get accepted to Bradley. He may still be eligible at another school, though.

Gotcha, didn't think about that. Thanks DC!
 
thefish7 said:
Beninator said:
houstontxbrave said:
thefish7 said:
I don't really think it's appropriate to give it to a player for just one year...

Why?

If it is going unused and can be used to provide a years worth of free education for one of the athletes on the team, then there really should be no reason to not give the one year ride to a walk on.

I agree... Why not do this?????

Well, because it's not really fair to the other walkons is it?
I was wondering if the scholie offer for one year would actually hurt in future years. If a walk-on was currently receiving some academic assistance, would they loose that assistance forever by receiving the b-ball scholarship?
 
If he receives an athletic scholarship, then, yes, he is limited from receiving academic scholarship. But that is not permanent. He can still receive academic scholarship money if the athletic scholarship is pulled.
 
This scenario was mentioned earlier but not discussed by many, and that's the scenario of DeAaron Williams still joining the Braves with Ray Brown's scholarship, should he qualify. Now, we have an open scholarship and at this moment it doesn't look like BU is openly recruiting anyone. Again, let me preface this by saying that I haven't heard anything to support this - this is just speculation on my part. But, I think with Ray Brown's departure, DeAaron Williams caught a tremendous break. BU had to pull the plug and get Theron Wilson because of DW's up-in-the-air status. There was still a chance he could qualify, but BU couldn't hang on and wait, otherwise they'd be up a creek without a paddle if he didn't. Now that DW's 'been replaced', but another scholarship has opened up, BU would have the opportunity to get DW back. From what I have heard, everyone liked DW and got along with him, and he was excited to come and play for the Braves. He didn't have a Jeremy Fears-type attitude, or personal baggage other than his academic problems. He is a good kid, JL said as much. So, I guess I am just openly wondering if JL has told DW that an opportunity has come up IF he can take care of his business in the classroom. I think it would be a nice addition in one of the most roundabout ways.
 
Interesting theory.
We know it is possible for BU to accept a student that does not qualify per NCAA (Ruffin)
And, I always thought that an ICC graduate would always have enough credits to transfer most anywhere via the way an associates degree can be accepted, although many BU degrees may require many additional courses.
It was sounding like the DW issue was more NCAA, as he has had 3 years.
To me, the DW announcement never made full sense (he will graduate from ICC but not qualify for BU), unless it were an additional NCAA thing.
 
tornado said:
Da Coach said:
My thoughts--
If there is still a chance to get a player like Demetrius Young...

Demetrius Young has verballed to Stony Brook.


Now Jucojunction has a story on Demetrius Young....
it is premium, but here are a few tidbits.............



Head Coach Doug Cornelius just finished his 6th year at Yuba College in Maryville, CA, near Sacramento. The 49ers finished the season at 27-8.

Young (SO) is 6-foot-6 (190) from Sacramento, CA. The "tweener" had committed early to Marshall University but with the coaching change has decided to go elsewhere for next season. Young has signed with Stony Brook University in New York. Demetrius visited Boise State and California State-Northridge this semester along with Stony Brook.

"Demetrius really liked the area of Stony Brook. He is right there near the Hamptons and New York City," said Cornelius. "He will be a great player in their league."

Demetrius was the Bay Valley Conference MVP this season along being a All-State selection.

"He scores 90% of his points in the paint," said Cornelius.

Young averaged 18.1 ppg, 10.9 rebounds and shot an unbelievable 69.3% (239-345) from the floor this season. He scored 836 points in his 63 career games at Yuba College. Young made all-tourney three times this season for Yuba while playing in five tournaments.


http://jucojunction.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=681284
 
Stony Brook finished the season with an RPI of 285. All of their recruits for this year are JUCO's-"no stars" except for Demetrius. Ouch...at least he should get lots of PT.
 
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