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Mens BB game in new facility

One game guys! I just can't believe a bunch of grown men feel so strong about an early game against a cupcake would mean so much. Let's not even get into post-season. I'm sure BU if given the home game would play at CC first but now they have an option if Disney on Ice takes over. I'm done with this thread. Again another take of complete over the top point of view.

Oh OOB just because I have not been to a game at CC in a long time it does not mean I would not love to. I'm not sure how my opinion is less worthy then yours. Come on man!;-) I do understand about man and their rituals and the BU games are a great excuse to have a few cold ones, perhaps get away from the doldrums of winter and for a few hours feel completely alive. This though is just one game. You guys are BU men's basketball addicts.
 
To be clear....let's imagine a scenario where a game at the Civic Center sells out. Well, by definition, fans will be shut out of attending that game.

The point is not necessarily about the pure idea of shutting out fans....it's about shutting out A LOT of fans. Like a few of the other posts in here, I do believe in the idea of supply and demand a bit. But there's a difference between a couple hundred and a couple thousand fans getting shut out.
 
LG281 said:
Right.

What would be different in one or two years? Nada.

If they are going to make a move its when the new facility is actually NEW. This move benefits the whole athletic department and no one has directly said that you, Wizard, were going to be put out.

Just do your best to get a ticket.

So whiney today...
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In 2 years the NCAA could have already deemed us DII after football Armageddon has concluded.

All half-kidding aside, in 2 years, I think BU will be playing more home games than we've seen in decades and we should be able to draw better home opponents. People will purchase their season tickets KNOWING THERE ARE EXTRAS NOT INCLUDED. Caveat emptor.

I can not stress enough, though these first two years may not reflect it, it could be possible for BU to play as many as 18 home games. I will look up later the last time that actually happened.

Season ticket holders have at most received 16 in recent years. There may have been 17 one out of the last 10 years.

I actually think this whole scenario is disappointing. I really do.

If BU can create enough long-term demand by increasing profits and WINNING, maybe, just maybe in 15 years a much more suitable large arena either on-campus or the Civic route can occur.

Gotta have vision.
 
Out of Balance said:
I bet you have your seat already bought T and it would entitle you to any home mens BB:-P Am I right:-P The big dogs get to eat first, right T;-)
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so I am a big dog?? Thanks...I sure wish a few others would agree with you....
anyway -- I have no seats secured whatsoever in the new facility although I expect I have my usual season tix at the CC.
 
SFP said:
One game guys! I just can't believe a bunch of grown men feel so strong about an early game against a cupcake would mean so much. Let's not even get into post-season. I'm sure BU if given the home game would play at CC first but now they have an option if Disney on Ice takes over. I'm done with this thread. Again another take of complete over the top point of view.

Oh OOB just because I have not been to a game at CC in a long time it does not mean I would not love to. I'm not sure how my opinion is less worthy then yours. Come on man!;-) I do understand about man and their rituals and the BU games are a great excuse to have a few cold ones, perhaps get away from the doldrums of winter and for a few hours feel completely alive. This though is just one game. You guys are BU men's basketball addicts.
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OK friend, did I not knock you for not being able to attend any games:!: All I said/meant was, yours/other's who may not be getting left out, don't feel what loyal season tick. holders feel:!: By getting cut out of a game or games, our ticket prices would be costing more for less:!: I just don't think anyone, other than those who are directly involved, should point the finger at those who put up their money to assure them of their purchased/ assigned seat and maybe not seeing their team play:!:
Season tickets have always meant seats for all home games and same seats for any post season seats (at additional cost:!: Where is BU headed to here, three different tear's of tickets! We already have the season tickets holders, the league season only ticket holders and then we would add those one game and post season ticket holders in the new facility:roll:
No friend, your inability to attend home, tournament or post season game's NEVER was meant to invade or discredit your locality and support for BU:!::!: There are many BU fans and even x-players who are like you, and remain loyal followers of BU BB:D
 
If only BU would be up front on the issue of Men's BB games in the on campus arena......:rolleyes:

As mentioned on this forum in other posts, its an attempt to get fans to pay additional money to BU for seats, and for some, additional PSL's, to watch men's basketball. The new arena and parking deck would not generate much revenue from the other sports which will use the facility for competition.

Enough of bringing bb back to campus, negotiating leverage with the PCC, increasing student attendance, creating a home court advantage, etc. These are all secondary to what the university really wants, more $$....Not that there is anything wrong with that.

Another idea, improve the success of the men's bb team in order to sell out the PCC more often. :idea::idea:

My worry is BU starting to look like Drake, who play in an on campus gymnasium (not a stadium) to 4-5000 fans with no parking, no easy access, no nearby pre/post game food and drink, and only 100 or so students attending. Their basketball program is now dwarfed by Iowa and Iowa State, and now Northern Iowa.

When Drake was relevant in the MVC and on a national stage, they played downtown Des Moines in a 10,000+ seat auditorium which drew fans/students.
 
tornado said:
so I am a big dog?? Thanks...I sure wish a few others would agree with you....
anyway -- I have no seats secured whatsoever in the new facility although I expect I have my usual season tix at the CC.
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OK, BIG DOG T :lol: You and other's know where I am going with this:-P Maybe we could name this game, The Game for BIG DOG's or The Queens Game:lol:
I am sorry here but I don't like the idea of purchasing two season tickets in my assigned seats and then being cut out of a home game and then forced to buy another 2 tickets to see the game at the new place that may not be as good of seats as I have sat in for years at the CC:!:
You know the old saying, If you leave a wounded DOG around, you will get bit:eek:
 
OOB -- if Bradley set up a game right now with EIU or even with a bigger name - then tried to sell tix at the new arena, it probably would NOT sell out....
that's why the NIT games only draw 4000, people just don't really wanna pay for a game vs. EIU or EIEIOU...so now BU is giving them that exact chance....
they don't have to buy the tix for the least desirable games nor are they forced to pay for 'em as part of the season ticket package...unless they want to...
but EVERYONE who wants tix will be able to get them!!
 
tornado said:
OOB -- if Bradley set up a game right now with EIU or even with a bigger name - then tried to sell tix at the new arena, it probably would NOT sell out....
that's why the NIT games only draw 4000, people just don't really wanna pay for a game vs. EIU or EIEIOU...so now BU is giving them that exact chance....
they don't have to buy the tix for the least desirable games nor are they forced to pay for 'em as part of the season ticket package...unless they want to...
but EVERYONE who wants tix will be able to get them!!
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:?, Lord T, you lost me and I know thats not hard to do:lol: We haven't been in a NIT game for so long but I am sure as hungry as the BU fans are for a real post season tournament there would be more than 4,000 fans there:!: Are you saying BU by scheduling down some games they don't care about $$:? In doing this there will soon be no such thing as a season ticket holder for all home games:doubt: Or are you saying, as a season ticket holder I will be able to have my season assigned seats for the games I choose to pay for only:? This should work out great:lol: Sorry I like going to all the home games. Can't see how this would benefit BU:!: Thanks for the insite T, look out season ticket holders, grease up baby:eek:
Think little and thats just what you will be:roll:
 
4000 at fully owned on-campus arena = more revenue than 8000 at CC
do the math...

and if you like going to all of them - then by all means GO!!!!
... even get your tix early enough for the sellouts like everyone else should do!
 
tornado said:
4000 at fully owned on-campus arena = more revenue than 8000 at CC
do the math...

and if you like going to all of them - then by all means GO!!!!
... even get your tix early enough for the sellouts like everyone else should do!
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Well, I'm sorry but 4000 at a postseason game is a black eye for the program. I remember when U of I played at stoney brook and I saw the attendance I thought, oh they are not playing on the same level as the MVC. It would show we are not even a mid major program let alone a big time program. I hope that is not where we are headed. Although I have always thought schools like Illinois weslyan were not that bad of basketball.
 
tornado said:
4000 at fully owned on-campus arena = more revenue than 8000 at CC
do the math...

and if you like going to all of them - then by all means GO!!!!
... even get your tix early enough for the sellouts like everyone else should do!
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Would you please share/show us your math and how you got your sum:?: Please I mean it, because all the rest of us on here don't have excess to BU's books:!: I've purchased my season tickets and paid my maintenance dues the first week when they came do:!: With the intent, as each year that it assured me the same seats and if I so desire (that is if BU gets in any post season play at home) I would be given a chance to purchase the same seats before going on sale to the public:!: Also would you share with us how bad the CC has been to BU, besides some scheduling problems:!:
 
I don't see how hard it is to understand that having a game at the new arena is a bad idea for the fan base. Yes it would be cool for those people that go, but even a nobody non-conference game and you are eliminating at least a couple thousand season ticket holders that would be at the game normally. Many BU fans would not appreciate that and the administration would be alienating them. None of the pros of having it on campus out weight the con of alienating so many fans. The last thing ANY sports team/fanchise wants to do is decrease the amount of fans that can attend the game. Its the basic formula of the business model.
 
Stryker said:
I don't see how hard it is to understand that having a game at the new arena is a bad idea for the fan base. Yes it would be cool for those people that go, but even a nobody non-conference game and you are eliminating at least a couple thousand season ticket holders that would be at the game normally. Many BU fans would not appreciate that and the administration would be alienating them. None of the pros of having it on campus out weight the con of alienating so many fans. The last thing ANY sports team/fanchise wants to do is decrease the amount of fans that can attend the game. Its the basic formula of the business model.
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Wow...ok, I'll say it so it comes from someone other than normal. If missing one game is going to alienate you...then you mustn't be a true fan.

Cmon...if the athletic department is doing this it is for a reason. Do you really think that they would make a move like this without weighing the options.
 
Having a single non-conference game at the new arena isn't bad for the fan base, it's bad for the long standing season ticket holder fan base. It's a great opportunity for the non-season ticket holders, the students, the administration, the team, other BU sports teams, chance to show off the new facility,etc. Actually people in the building and into the game for EIU at the PCC will be less than 4,500 I guarantee it.

It's a fun, unique LIMITED ENGAGEMENT thing. No one is talking about moving multiple, meaningful games out of the PCC and no one is telling you that you can't go to the game, just go buy a ticket like the commoners do for every game.

If you would seriously consider pulling donations or support for the university or basketball program over this, then you are selfish and loyal only to yourself and your needs, and not a true supporter of the university and it's best interests. But let me guess, what's in BU's best interest is keeping you happy so the checks keep coming right, everything else be ****ed.
 
LG281 said:
Pros -
- the benefit mentioned above to the bottom line.
- Any $$ lost by not having a few thousand folks may be offset by not having to pay the CC to be in their facility for a night
- Added student interest from an on campus event that could spark interest to go downtown for games.
- Great home atmosphere. (not a knock to the CC - just drastically different)
- The WBB and VB teams benefit from the sale of these 500 or so "priority" seats
- Place to host post season events
- We gain a little wiggle room in dealing with the CC
- Anyone who has ever taken an economics class would tell you that creating a little demand is NEVER a bad thing.
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I am a little late to this debate as I have been busy with other things. I don't understand this "pro" arguement. Given that I think we have more season ticket holders than the capacity of the new facilities, and given that this seems to be more of an exclusive event, I have a feeling that the students will once again get shafted if they want tickets for a game at the new arena.

dogsrus said:
squirrelgotdead said:
One benefit that hasn't really been talked about is that this facility should greatly reduce BU's bottom line.

At what expense.....again reduce the bottom line on the backs of hundreds perhaps thousands of loyal BU fans. FOOLISH.
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Agree... I think that BU needs to find ways to be more inclusive with our fans than this concept!

AZ BU Fan said:
Enough of bringing bb back to campus, negotiating leverage with the PCC, increasing student attendance, creating a home court advantage, etc. These are all secondary to what the university really wants, more $$....Not that there is anything wrong with that.
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Exactly... I think this new plan is an excuse to tier the ticket levels to increase ticket prices in the future!

lake Camelot said:
Well, I'm sorry but 4000 at a postseason game is a black eye for the program. I remember when U of I played at stoney brook and I saw the attendance I thought, oh they are not playing on the same level as the MVC. It would show we are not even a mid major program let alone a big time program. I hope that is not where we are headed. Although I have always thought schools like Illinois weslyan were not that bad of basketball.
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Very much agree! We already have to overcome the mid-major label, why put gas on the fire and contribute to that perception with a game at a 4,500 seat facility?

So far, this looks like a half-***ed approach to bring games back to the campus. JMHO
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