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Momma always told me....

chitown fanatic said:
and another thing...where is Thompson?? Jim is gonna not play him, he'll transfer and become a star somewhere else.
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Are you kidding me! AT was being pushed around by that chunky guy they had. AT was trying to play him up instead of using agility or speed. That is why AT was not playing much yesterday. Chunky would have had him for an after dinner tooth pick.:lol:
 
tornado said:
I watch a lot of college basketball....and no place do more high screen get called as fouls than in games involving Missouri Valley teams....and more touch-fouls, and soft-contact in the lane get called as fouls.
This exact same stuff and even harder contact go on all the time in the Big Ten & elsewhere, and yet nothing called.
It must be part of the overall plan in this league to do this so as to discourage any decent big man from ever wanting to play in the MVC!


And I agree that Chris Roberts should not be shooting 3-pointers while guarded early in the shot clock.
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I wish the Valley would do something about the referees in this conference. They stink and are doing a disservice to the MVC I believe. Did anyone watch the Memphis - Syracuse game yesterday? The refs just let them play. I hate to say this, if I'm a true big looking at heading to the NBA I'm heading to one of the larger schools because at least you will know what contact should feel like. There's a reason POB shined during the NCAA, the refs let him play instead of calling a foul if he looked at someone.
 
Two of those so called moving screens were bad calls......period......there was one early that we left the screen to quick.....if we stick the screen before rolling we are fine.....I thought we held the screen fine after that 1st one....but the refs were set up for the call...

I try not to complain much about calls, but those and the Theron Wilson foul when he got shoved into the player in front of him and got the 2nd foul on him were game altering calls...
 
He sets bad screens period , and for a senior he has bad fundementals , he shoots the ball good but he doesn"t rebound or play defense, how many chances are you willing to give him.
 
MacabreMob said:
Right - but you watch a lot of teams and many do it without getting called for it. I think the key is to do it at the right time. We don't. :lol: No really... we set moving screens too obvious to be ignored. We need to set them so far away from the "motion" of the "motion-offense" it isn't noticed cause everyone is watching the ball. We "Ball-Screen" too much. We need to set multiple screens on-going. That's a "motion-offense" to me. We need to set 'moving-screens' way in advance of the ball. They get noticed less, it takes more passes to get to the open shooter... but when all is said and done... he's wide freakin open from wherever he is at.
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It worked for the Fightin Illini of 2005!
 
tornado said:
I watch a lot of college basketball....and no place do more high screen get called as fouls than in games involving Missouri Valley teams....and more touch-fouls, and soft-contact in the lane get called as fouls.
This exact same stuff and even harder contact go on all the time in the Big Ten & elsewhere, and yet nothing called.
It must be part of the overall plan in this league to do this so as to discourage any decent big man from ever wanting to play in the MVC!


And I agree that Chris Roberts should not be shooting 3-pointers while guarded early in the shot clock.
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I agree on the moving screens, ticky tack in the paint fouls being called way more in the Valley. But that's just another reason to get the ball to somebody on the block, DC can draw fouls in this league by just turning and shooting the ball. I thought in the second half up in Milwaukee it looked as if BU came out determined to get the ball inside early, and it worked, and we went on a run. DC got a couple of foul shots, a turn around jumper and theron got a little 8 footer off a pass to the paint. Then all of a sudden we went very small, no DC or AT for about the final 8 minutes and UWM just put their head down and drove the paint, getting a foul literally evertime down the floor for about 6-7 trips in a row. The foul on the 3 point shooter was a killer when we were down 6 late in the 2nd half as well.
 
Dubl R 1 said:
I agree on the moving screens, ticky tack in the paint fouls being called way more in the Valley. But that's just another reason to get the ball to somebody on the block, DC can draw fouls in this league by just turning and shooting the ball. I thought in the second half up in Milwaukee it looked as if BU came out determined to get the ball inside early, and it worked, and we went on a run. DC got a couple of foul shots, a turn around jumper and theron got a little 8 footer off a pass to the paint. Then all of a sudden we went very small, no DC or AT for about the final 8 minutes and UWM just put their head down and drove the paint, getting a foul literally evertime down the floor for about 6-7 trips in a row. The foul on the 3 point shooter was a killer when we were down 6 late in the 2nd half as well.
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We were also a -17 in the 2nd half with DC in the game...

Somehow that spells Panther victory to me...
 
scout4126 said:
The only two players that I know we're going to get something out of are DD and TW. Keep them on the floor because they really don't tire out. AT can't do much worst than DC, go ahead and test him out. CR and TB are inconsistent but always gives effort, especially on the boards but JL needs to limit their roles offensively and (like many others) make them play D. EM has been solid as well but his youth shows plenty. SM needs to sit down until he can learn what a team concept is. DN is inconsistent but has a chance to be a key player for us.
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That's how I'm seeing it too. Can't figure why DD's minutes are reduced, as I think he's been our best player most of the year.
 
Dubl R 1 said:
I agree on the moving screens, ticky tack in the paint fouls being called way more in the Valley. But that's just another reason to get the ball to somebody on the block, DC can draw fouls in this league by just turning and shooting the ball. I thought in the second half up in Milwaukee it looked as if BU came out determined to get the ball inside early, and it worked, and we went on a run. DC got a couple of foul shots, a turn around jumper and theron got a little 8 footer off a pass to the paint. Then all of a sudden we went very small, no DC or AT for about the final 8 minutes and UWM just put their head down and drove the paint, getting a foul literally evertime down the floor for about 6-7 trips in a row. The foul on the 3 point shooter was a killer when we were down 6 late in the 2nd half as well.
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That's kind how I saw it going too, Dubl R 1. It seemed like the halftime adjustment from the coach was to get the ball inside... We racked up points and got some of their players in foul trouble. Before too long though, we were the perimeter squirrel derby team again.
 
thefish7 said:
That's kind how I saw it going too, Dubl R 1. It seemed like the halftime adjustment from the coach was to get the ball inside... We racked up points and got some of their players in foul trouble. Before too long though, we were the perimeter squirrel derby team again.
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I'm in this court also......When we went inside good things seemed to happen. We also need to convert on the front end of the 1-1s.
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
We were also a -17 in the 2nd half with DC in the game...

Somehow that spells Panther victory to me...
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You are not even close on this. Where did you get this absurd data. Did you just make it up? Here are the 2nd half numbers with DC in and out of the game.


David Collins started the 2nd half.

BU outscores UWM 10-3 before DC exits at the 15:19 mark. (+7)

Without DC for the next 2:02 BU outscores UWM 4-2.

DC returns at the 13:19 mark. UWM outscores BU 7-6 before DC exits at the 10:09 mark. (-1)

DC does not return the rest of the game, and UWM outscores BU 24-22.

So, I ask again, How did you derive that BU was a -17 in the 2nd half with DC in the game?

If you look at the numbers or were watching the game, you'd see that BU was a +6 with DC in the game and were even up without him in the 2nd half.

SaintLouBrave22 said:
How is that ever surprising if we're watching the same game:?:
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The above was your response to my saying that if that stat was accurate that you gave, it would be surprising to me. So, we must not have been watching the same game StLouBrave22, I was watching BU-UWM, who were you watching?
 
Dubl R 1 said:
You are not even close on this. Where did you get this absurd data. Did you just make it up? Here are the 2nd half numbers with DC in and out of the game.


David Collins started the 2nd half.

BU outscores UWM 10-3 before DC exits at the 15:19 mark. (+7)

Without DC for the next 2:02 BU outscores UWM 4-2.

DC returns at the 13:19 mark. UWM outscores BU 7-6 before DC exits at the 10:09 mark. (-1)

DC does not return the rest of the game, and UWM outscores BU 24-22.

So, I ask again, How did you derive that BU was a -17 in the 2nd half with DC in the game?

If you look at the numbers or were watching the game, you'd see that BU was a +6 with DC in the game and were even up without him in the 2nd half.



The above was your response to my saying that if that stat was accurate that you gave, it would be surprising to me. So, we must not have been watching the same game StLouBrave22, I was watching BU-UWM, who were you watching?
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OH sure bring FACTS into the argument....:)
 
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