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MVC moves ahead of Atlantic 10 into #8 RPI conference

Da Coach said:
With the conference season starting, there won't be much chance for a lot more movement, but after last night's games, the MVC moved into #8 in conference RPI. This is the highest they have been since the first couple weeks.

http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html
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That is crazy, I know Creighton got St. Joe and Dayton and Creighton might really be pretty good. But the A10 is a far superior conference. Xavier, Temple and Dayton would all win the Big10 and those 3 along with St. Joe Umass and Rhode Island could win the Valley. That is way off base.
 
I like the MVC's chances of finishing 8th. Although there isn't much value between finishing 8th and 9th, really.

It's really nice to see the MVC holding steady in the top 10 in a down year.
 
BUFAN said:
That is crazy, I know Creighton got St. Joe and Dayton and Creighton might really be pretty good. But the A10 is a far superior conference. Xavier, Temple and Dayton would all win the Big10 and those 3 along with St. Joe Umass and Rhode Island could win the Valley. That is way off base.
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I saw UMASS yesterday at U of Houston get beat by close to 35. If they won the Valley this year then the Valley is HORRIBLE. UMASS is not good they are 5-7 yes I know they beat Kansas, but they have lost to Jacksonville State and Wisconsin Green Bay.

Oh and Temple and Dayton would need to worry about winning the A10 because neither would finish in the top half of the Big 10. Yes Dayton beat Marquette but they lost to a Valley team in CU and besides those who have they beaten... Auburn?

Temple is average at best and yes I know they beat Tennessee. They wont sniff the NCAA. 5-6 currently

Rhode Island is the only one of the group of of A10 teams you have pointed out besides Xavier who has a strong team and have played a pretty decent schdule. Those two teams are the only class teams in that conference. Eventually by the end of the season Charlotte might have something to say in that conference.
 
Da Coach said:
The NCAA showed last year that even finishing 7th, like the MVC did, isn't worth anything.
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Well, of course, but in general, to establish a place around 8th or 7th year after year after year after year will eventually earn better scheduling opportunites and better resumes. Think long-term :)
 
The West Coast conference will probably move ahead of both the A-10 and MVC. They have a strength of schedule rank of #1.
 
BUFAN said:
That is crazy, I know Creighton got St. Joe and Dayton and Creighton might really be pretty good. But the A10 is a far superior conference. Xavier, Temple and Dayton would all win the Big10 and those 3 along with St. Joe Umass and Rhode Island could win the Valley. That is way off base.
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Haha, Xavier, Temple and Dayton win the Big10? I love mid-majors as much as anyone, but that isn't even reasonable.

Xavier may have a shot, though I doubt it. But Temple? Losses at Long Beach State, to Miami (OH) at home, at Buffalo, and a win at home against Tennessee being there only good win. And Dayton I don't even need to bother with. They are all three good teams, but Xavier would have an outside chance, the other two wouldn't even be in the hunt.
 
TheAsianSensation said:
Well, of course, but in general, to establish a place around 8th or 7th year after year after year after year will eventually earn better scheduling opportunites and better resumes. Think long-term :)
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Unless the "big boys" start thinking that we are a good conference with good teams and decide that they don't want to play us anywhere, ever... ;)
 
houstontxbrave said:
I saw UMASS yesterday at U of Houston get beat by close to 35. If they won the Valley this year then the Valley is HORRIBLE. UMASS is not good they are 5-7 yes I know they beat Kansas, but they have lost to Jacksonville State and Wisconsin Green Bay.

Oh and Temple and Dayton would need to worry about winning the A10 because neither would finish in the top half of the Big 10. Yes Dayton beat Marquette but they lost to a Valley team in CU and besides those who have they beaten... Auburn?

Temple is average at best and yes I know they beat Tennessee. They wont sniff the NCAA. 5-6 currently

Rhode Island is the only one of the group of of A10 teams you have pointed out besides Xavier who has a strong team and have played a pretty decent schdule. Those two teams are the only class teams in that conference. Eventually by the end of the season Charlotte might have something to say in that conference.
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Like your precious Big 10 and i think MSt is for real and Ill. is under rared; I only wish I could save your post until march. The big 10 will fall to any of 6-8 A10 teams...
 
amckillip said:
Haha, Xavier, Temple and Dayton win the Big10? I love mid-majors as much as anyone, but that isn't even reasonable.

Xavier may have a shot, though I doubt it. But Temple? Losses at Long Beach State, to Miami (OH) at home, at Buffalo, and a win at home against Tennessee being there only good win. And Dayton I don't even need to bother with. They are all three good teams, but Xavier would have an outside chance, the other two wouldn't even be in the hunt.
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Big10 would be the mid major if they had a challenge...
 
BUFAN said:
Big10 would be the mid major if they had a challenge...
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Or if they did not have the word "BIG" in front of the name. The MVC needs to change to the "Big Valley" or some such name. Gotta get the name BIG in there somewhere and "Missouri" out. I am glad they have branded it "The Valley", but MVC is still the official name. Get rid of it.
 
Da Coach said:
The NCAA showed last year that even finishing 7th, like the MVC did, isn't worth anything.
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No, but this season hopefully we finish with two or three elite teams versus the one and only Drake last year. Plus I'd still rather finish in the top 10 even if we only get one bid, just so we don't fall off too far.
 
georgethedog said:
The West Coast conference will probably move ahead of both the A-10 and MVC. They have a strength of schedule rank of #1.
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I disagree. The WCC has two HORRENDOUS teams at the bottom with a combined record of 1-26! Plus Gonzaga has been in a free fall lately losing three in a row!
 
georgethedog said:
Or if they did not have the word "BIG" in front of the name. The MVC needs to change to the "Big Valley" or some such name. Gotta get the name BIG in there somewhere and "Missouri" out. I am glad they have branded it "The Valley", but MVC is still the official name. Get rid of it.
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What if we named it "Big Massive Valley That Will Kill You in the Night?"
 
After games played through December 31st, the MVC is 8th in Conference RPI based on all games. When considering Non-Conf games only, the MVC is 9th. This info from Jerry Palm's site at collegerpi.com. Here is a comment from Palm: "The NCAA calculates conference rankings both with and without conference games. I think a conference game is like a 'team' playing itself, so I prefer the non-conference version."
 
BUFAN said:
Like your precious Big 10 and i think MSt is for real and Ill. is under rared; I only wish I could save your post until march. The big 10 will fall to any of 6-8 A10 teams...
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All posts on here are saved as are all the threads, feel free to come back here in March and talk about how great the A10 is, in your mind, and maybe by then you can give some depth to your analysis other then just saying someone is great or horrible... back it up with a little fact.

But Ill welcome your analysis in March of the Big 10 losing to 8 A10 teams... but again when you do, provide some sort of fact on how that has happened.
 
Bravesfan said:
I disagree. The WCC has two HORRENDOUS teams at the bottom with a combined record of 1-26! Plus Gonzaga has been in a free fall lately losing three in a row!
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The MVC has some real impressive teams at the bottom too:

197 Southern Ill. 0-2 4-8 0.4813 70 0.5430
208 Wichita St. 0-2 5-7 0.4744 119 0.5192
252 Indiana St. 1-1 2-10 0.4466 100 0.5288

A couple bottom dwellers will not make or break the whole league's rpi I don't think. We shall see. My argument is based on SOS and The WCC is #1 right now, which by the way is mostly "out of conference" SOS. The MVC is #6. I think as time moves on the WCC's SOS will move them up. I could be wrong, but I am usually right on everything I say and do. Just ask my wife...
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