The only differences I see between then and now is that the kids are getting legally paid and the only job they work at is on the team.You originally called it “being sour,” which is interesting because labeling something that way while continuing to defend and reframe the situation is exactly what holding a grudge tends to look like.
The bigger issue is the inconsistency in your argument. You acknowledge the benefits were impermissible, then try to soften it with intent and semantics. That’s a weak distinction. If it violates NCAA rules, it violates NCAA rules, whether you call it inadvertent or not doesn’t change the substance.
And the idea that this wasn’t blatant cheating doesn’t hold up under even basic scrutiny. I was there. I saw the checks. I had players joke directly with me about making more money in an hour a week “working” at Star (shooting free throws with employees on a hoop at Star) than I was making working 40 hours a week at the time while balancing classes. So because it was a check with hundreds of dollars each week from a legit company instead of bundles of cash (OJ Mayo) that makes it ok? That’s not a gray area or a misunderstanding…..that’s a system.
The claim that coaches were unaware is just as flimsy. Either there was a lack of control over the program, or they knew. And just because the NCAA didn’t rule that coaches knew doesn’t mean they didn’t especially given how open it was.
At the end of the day, this isn’t about me being “sour.” It’s about consistency. Calling McKay/Broussard/New Mexico “blatant cheaters” while dismissing Bradley’s improprieties as accidental or insignificant is the very definition of hypocrisy.
They are the last Valley team standing like we were last season. They win at Wake Forrest we won at George Mason not easily done.This is the first time since 1996 that ISU has made it to the NIT quaterfinals. They will play at Dayton
And their maturity showed in the final minutes. Kinziger, Wolf, and Pence all hit big shots, and Kinziger's free throws iced it.They are the last Valley team standing like we were last season. They win at Wake Forrest we won at George Mason not easily done.
They also figured out how to keep this best players for 3 seasons and possibly 4 for a few. UNI was able to do the same as far as keep their star players. Whatever they are doing to be able to secure their players works,. UNI I doubt does it with money.
Exactly, building your team from the ground floor adds continuity as these guys no what each one can do and they trust in each other in where the ball should go at the end of games to give them the best chance to win.And their maturity showed in the final minutes. Kinziger, Wolf, and Pence all hit big shots, and Kinziger's free throws iced it.
We need to support ISU now. They represent the MVC right nowThis is the first time since 1996 that ISU has made it to the NIT quaterfinals. They will play at Dayton
They had a terrible incident happen there....We need to support ISU now. They represent the MVC right now
Illinois State beat Wake Forest 78-75- https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/boxscore/_/gameId/401858352
They advance to play Dayton in the quarterfinals.
We need to support ISU now. They represent the MVC right now
and don''t forget that Danny Granger, Duane Broussard, Ritchie McKay, Drew Adams were all there, tooNew Mexico has a bit of a Bradley connection as Mikey Howell is an assistant there.
Great find! I definitely got a kick outta reading thatand don''t forget that Danny Granger, Duane Broussard, Ritchie McKay, Drew Adams were all there, too
And Bradley won the 1964 NIT Championship beating New Mexico 86-54 with Levern Tart the MVP & Joe Strawder high scorer with 21 pts.
setting the record for the largest margin of victory in an NIT Final. - LINK (This is an article from just this week proving that New Mexico fans are still not over the butt-whumping Bradley gave them 62 years ago!!!)