Official Annoucement of Bradley's LOI's

[MacabreMob]

If you're Les how do you handle this situation? I think he's darned if he does & darned if he doesn't.

IMO, Coach is being 'held hostage'.

:evil:

 

[bu fan 9]

Drop D Williams if you can get Coley if he is having trouble with grades at ICC he will never make it at Bradley.

 

[thefish7]

You can't reneg on a guy like DeAaron Williams, regardless of how good Charlie Coley is-- that's really not the point. You made your offer, he accepted and signed the LOI, now you have to stick by what you've done. Until the kid has not qualified, then you are responsible, in my opinion, to stand by your commitments.

Anything else makes Bradley like the "just win" organizations that we criticize so often on here.

Edit: I meant to say this and didn't. It might not even be good for the just win org... Williams may be the better player, and he comes from your local recruiting grounds.

 

[dogsrus]

You can't reneg on a guy like DeAaron Williams, regardless of how good Charlie Coley is-- that's really not the point. You made your offer, he accepted and signed the LOI, now you have to stick by what you've done. Until the kid has not qualified, then you are responsible, in my opinion, to stand by your commitments.

Anything else makes Bradley like the "just win" organizations that we criticize so often on here.

I have to agree....coach knew what he was getting in DW. I trust they will do the right thing.

 

[PeoriaLou]

Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????

 

[BradleyBrave]

Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????

A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.

 

[bu fan 9]

If he wants to come to BU he will have a scholarship that's a book it.

 

[OrangeandBlack74]

You can't reneg on a guy like DeAaron Williams, regardless of how good Charlie Coley is-- that's really not the point. You made your offer, he accepted and signed the LOI, now you have to stick by what you've done. Until the kid has not qualified, then you are responsible, in my opinion, to stand by your commitments.

Anything else makes Bradley like the "just win" organizations that we criticize so often on here.

I have to agree....coach knew what he was getting in DW. I trust they will do the right thing.

I'm sure the coaches knew that academics would be an issue for DW.....but what they weren't expecting was ICC's failure to monitor DW's progress towards a degree. Now, it sounds like ICC is "scrambling" to make sure DW goes to class and fulfills his degree requirements.

While I agree that BU should stand by its commitment to DW, it is under no obligation to him if he fails to meet the requirements for graduation.....so IMO there's nothing wrong with BU having a fall-back plan that includes Coley or whoever.

 

[amckillip]

Drop D Williams if you can get Coley if he is having trouble with grades at ICC he will never make it at Bradley.

I think the difference is the support system here, ask anyones who has ever taken a class with a basketball player. The coaches MAKE SURE those kids are in classes. I'm talking they check every day, they check grades all the time, they get the players tutors if they're needed. I have to applaud the staff here at BU, they just set the player up to succeed, they don't make failure an option.

I'm sure Georgethedog or any students who have had a BBall player in their class can attest to what I'm saying.

 

[IheartBU]

Drop D Williams if you can get Coley if he is having trouble with grades at ICC he will never make it at Bradley.

I think the difference is the support system here, ask anyones who has ever taken a class with a basketball player. The coaches MAKE SURE those kids are in classes. I'm talking they check every day, they check grades all the time, they get the players tutors if they're needed. I have to applaud the staff here at BU, they just set the player up to succeed, they don't make failure an option.

I'm sure Georgethedog or any students who have had a BBall player in their class can attest to what I'm saying.

They are really good about finding tutors, etc. for all athletes, including the basketball players -- and that tutoring pay was my drinking money through some of college. :twisted: It also seems they've really been tightening the ship as far as academics. Early on in Les-time, you'd have players talking on cell phones in the middle of class, but behavior like that went by the wayside in the last few years.

Honestly, I don't know that I envy the players. It was hard enough to keep up in my classes when I wasn't on the road 25 weeks a year.

 

[bu fan 9]

Wisky had the same thing for DW but he didn't like going to class so he left and come home to ICC where he can do what he wants to do because he doesn't like going to school.

 

[thefish7]

You can't reneg on a guy like DeAaron Williams, regardless of how good Charlie Coley is-- that's really not the point. You made your offer, he accepted and signed the LOI, now you have to stick by what you've done. Until the kid has not qualified, then you are responsible, in my opinion, to stand by your commitments.

Anything else makes Bradley like the "just win" organizations that we criticize so often on here.

I have to agree....coach knew what he was getting in DW. I trust they will do the right thing.

I'm sure the coaches knew that academics would be an issue for DW.....but what they weren't expecting was ICC's failure to monitor DW's progress towards a degree. Now, it sounds like ICC is "scrambling" to make sure DW goes to class and fulfills his degree requirements.

While I agree that BU should stand by its commitment to DW, it is under no obligation to him if he fails to meet the requirements for graduation.....so IMO there's nothing wrong with BU having a fall-back plan that includes Coley or whoever.

Nothing wrong with a fall-back plan.... And if the kid doesn't qualify then the university doesn't owe him anything either. Point is, you can't just pull the scholarship because you want another player.

 

[romar]

Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????

A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.

I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.

 

[thefish7]

Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????

A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.

I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.

I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.

 

[romar]

Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????

A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.

I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.

I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.

If it's his choice to leave (for whatever reason) then fine, let him go or even assist him in finding another fit. The thing is, he was recruited to BU and just because the style of play has changed or he has been injured and he hasn't been able to produce thus far (not saying he won't produce) you don't force a kid like that out.

 

[BradleyBrave]

Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????

A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.

I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.

I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.

It would be handled the same way Jassey was handled. I didn't hear anyone griping about his dismissal.

 

[romar]

Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????

A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.

I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.

I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.

It would be handled the same way Jassey was handled. I didn't hear anyone griping about his dismissal.

It's my understanding the players meetings are complete and it was after SJ was told his role on next years team, he made the choice to leave. Not what I'd call a "dismissal". So I'd assume this other player has been told his options and has not made a similar choice.

If those meetings are finished, and as a staff you recruit someone you think might fit your program and you then try to coerce a current player to leave, I say that's just wrong.

I trust that JL will handle things ethically and above board.

 

[Rusty 54]

As far as I have heard, the player mentioned has not gotten into any trouble or done anything that would suggest that he might be better off at a different school

 

[BradleyBrave]

Okay, so if CC wants to come to BU, where does the scholly come from????

A post player that hasn't been used much in his duration at BU.

I find this thought much more atrocious than letting DW go - DW has given nothing to the BU program except for his word that he would play there. The other player being discussed, at no fault of his own has been oft injured and has earned the right to receive the scholarship and a BU education.

I agree here too. Bradley shouldn't force a kid to leave... but if the player in question wanted more playing time then transferring is an option and not some kind of unethical one. So if he wants to stay you're obligated to keep him, but if he wants to play and won't be able to, you help him find a spot somewhere. I trust the staff is ethical and will stand by their commitments.

It would be handled the same way Jassey was handled. I didn't hear anyone griping about his dismissal.

It's my understanding the players meetings are complete and it was after SJ was told his role on next years team, he made the choice to leave. Not what I'd call a "dismissal". So I'd assume this other player has been told his options and has not made a similar choice.

If those meetings are finished, and as a staff you recruit someone you think might fit your program and you then try to coerce a current player to leave, I say that's just wrong.

I trust that JL will handle things ethically and above board.

It's been fairly common knowledge that Saihou Jassey was not going to be a part of this program since January. Call it what you will. If other players can't see similar writing on the wall, perhaps you need to make it clearer for them. I don't think we're doing anything unethical, but this is real life here, and people's jobs are on the line. I think getting however many years of a $30,000+ education for free is treating someone pretty well, and so is helping find them a better situation. Who's to say that BU won't do that if they need another scholarship? We'll handle this the right way for the kids and for our program.

 

[tornado]

Wisky had the same thing for DW but he didn't like going to class so he left and come home to ICC where he can do what he wants to do because he doesn't like going to school.

But Wisconsin did have some serious academic problems, and now they agree they have helped correct it.