BradleyBrave
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And he looks real good in red. 
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OT: He is coming...
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Future Walk-On
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word.
And he looks real good in red.
You are funny! I can't see him staying in Cleveland any longer and imagine if the Bulls decide to pick up the Zen master Phil as their coach again. It is starting to look good for the Bulls right now and if the Lakers do not win a championship this year it will look better.
BradleyBrave
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Phil isn't coming, but John Calipari might if it ensures the delivery of LeBron James to Chicago. He's supposedly a favorite to replace Mike Brown in Cleveland now that the Cavs have been eliminated.
Man does that guy look great in red...
Man does that guy look great in red...
As a matter of fact you should start pulling for The Suns!
I do believe that Orlando matches up real well this year against The Lakers and are playing some great D.
I'm not a Bull's fan but I'd have to say there is some real hope. The Cavs were plainly out coached against the Celtics! If I'm LeBron I'm going to a team with a proven coach.
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DeltaBrave03
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I'm not much of an NBA fan but from an outside perspective, I think Lebron would have a better chance to build his legacy by staying in Cleveland where he is obviously the savior of that franchise. If he goes to chicago he'll forever be compared to MJ and he'll always have the people who'll say he couldn't have done it without Rose and whoever else.
houstontxbrave
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Nets have no chance they are in limbo for 2 more years and Lebron is not going to hang out in Newark waiting for Brooklyn.
If Lebron is anywhere serious about winning he heads to Chicago. It is pretty apparent what is around him in Cleveland isnt going to get it done and they are locked into some difficult contracts for next season.
Chicago has a very good point, an active 5 and other decent pieces to go with James.
But the biggest question will be if Chicago is willing to pony up the money for a Marque head coach. I certainly think Jackson might be interested regardless of the Lakers outcome.. simply to have coached Jordan, Bryant then James.
If Lebron is about money then he stays in Cleveland because they can give him the biggest deal. I think he is about money but it will not be the deciding factor, it will be a big part though.
He will own Chicago, he would have to still share NYC. Owning Cleveland has gotten him nowhere.
If Lebron is anywhere serious about winning he heads to Chicago. It is pretty apparent what is around him in Cleveland isnt going to get it done and they are locked into some difficult contracts for next season.
Chicago has a very good point, an active 5 and other decent pieces to go with James.
But the biggest question will be if Chicago is willing to pony up the money for a Marque head coach. I certainly think Jackson might be interested regardless of the Lakers outcome.. simply to have coached Jordan, Bryant then James.
If Lebron is about money then he stays in Cleveland because they can give him the biggest deal. I think he is about money but it will not be the deciding factor, it will be a big part though.
He will own Chicago, he would have to still share NYC. Owning Cleveland has gotten him nowhere.
BradleyBrave
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This isn't a shot at you deltabrave, because a lot of people make this argument all the time - but I am really tired of this argument. It has no merit whatsoever. Was Kobe afraid of 'following' Magic? Was Shaq afraid of 'following' Jabbar? Were either of them worried about people saying one couldn't win without the other? Was Kevin Garnett worried about not living up to the legacies of Bill Russell or Robert Parrish? Enough of this already. If people really thought this way, no one would ever play for the Lakers, Celtics, or Yankees, and no one would go to North Carolina or Kansas to play basketball, or Notre Dame to play football. Lebron may not end up in Chicago, but it won't be because he's afraid of following whatever legacy Michael Jordan still has in this city. MJ played his last game for the Bulls 12 years ago, and a large number of Bulls fans nowadays never saw him play in Chicago.
LeBron wants to play in a major media market. It's reported (though recently denied) that LeBron's contract with Nike pays him much more if he plays for a team in one of the 3 major markets- NY (or New Jersey), Chicago, or LA.
Plus, he wants to play for a team that has the other key pieces in place to win a championship right away- a top quality point guard, a couple other reliable scorers, and a good rebounder who is not selfish and looking to score points himself.
Right now New York doesn't have many of those things, and neither does New Jersey, and both appear to be years away from winning an NBA championship even if they had LeBron. And LA doesn't have room or money for LeBron. Lebron does not want to play for a losing team. So that's part of the reason Chicago is in this discussion. They have more than enough money to offer a maximum contract, and will do so. And they appear to be positioned better than New York or New Jersey to be a title contender with LeBron.
The other advantage Chicago may have is that they do not have a coach- that means they could allow LeBron to "choose" his own hand-selected coach if he came to Chicago. There are rumors that this may be an important criterion for deciding where he plays. Plus LeBron has said he likes Chicago, and it's closer to his home and family in Ohio, which might play a part in his decision.
In the end, I don't believe LeBron will sign with Chicago, but he will give them serious consideration. Though teams are constrained by the NBA to a fixed maximum contract, somehow New York will find ways to throw a whole lot more money his way.
Plus, he wants to play for a team that has the other key pieces in place to win a championship right away- a top quality point guard, a couple other reliable scorers, and a good rebounder who is not selfish and looking to score points himself.
Right now New York doesn't have many of those things, and neither does New Jersey, and both appear to be years away from winning an NBA championship even if they had LeBron. And LA doesn't have room or money for LeBron. Lebron does not want to play for a losing team. So that's part of the reason Chicago is in this discussion. They have more than enough money to offer a maximum contract, and will do so. And they appear to be positioned better than New York or New Jersey to be a title contender with LeBron.
The other advantage Chicago may have is that they do not have a coach- that means they could allow LeBron to "choose" his own hand-selected coach if he came to Chicago. There are rumors that this may be an important criterion for deciding where he plays. Plus LeBron has said he likes Chicago, and it's closer to his home and family in Ohio, which might play a part in his decision.
In the end, I don't believe LeBron will sign with Chicago, but he will give them serious consideration. Though teams are constrained by the NBA to a fixed maximum contract, somehow New York will find ways to throw a whole lot more money his way.
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Looks like a winner to me...
BradleyBrave
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Now this is just teasing. If his handlers and inner circle are telling him these things...well...paging Mr. Paxson!
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5186275&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/nba/news/story?id=5186275&campaign=rss&source=NBAHeadlines
DeltaBrave03
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I agree with you, but isn't it more enticing to be THE man in Cleveland history rather than one of a few in Chicago. I think it comes down to whether he wants a chance to win a championship every year in chicago or whether he wants to be THE man of all time in Cleveland. I do think chicago would be more appealing to him. If you bring in the money, even though the bulls can't pay as much, the Chicago endorsement deals should could cover the differences and then some.
BradleyBrave
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Had Lebron won this year, I would agree with you. But with the way the Cavs are set up, they don't project to be able to put the pieces around Lebron better than they did this year for a while. If his desire is the quickest path to a title, the shorter road is through Chicago. But, he is an Ohio guy, and that means something. I'm not sure it means as much as people think though.
Regarding money, he can make $30 million more in salary if he stays in Cleveland. However, as DC said, there are incentive in his Nike contract for playing in one of the top 3 media markets (LA/CHI/NY). That would more than offset the $30 million left on the table. It has also been mentioned that he may opt for a shorter contract, which would also offset the $30 million over 7 years that would be left on the table. Lastly, a sign-and-trade with Cleveland would get Lebron all of the $30 million, and ensure that Cleveland isn't left with nothing.
It will be interesting to follow, no doubt...fingers are crossed!
Missouri Brave
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He stays. He's a loyal guy and Cleveland is too much a part of his life for him to skip town.
houstontxbrave
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You are right. James respects Jordan but in now way believes Jordan is or was a better player then him.
There is a reason Calipari and Rose were sitting courtside. And James has indicated that him and his "team" have a plan.
I have my doubts about Cleveland, they can pay the most money but how can he ever get by Orlando with the cast he has around him now in Cleveland?
I like the idea of him in Chicago, I think he likes the idea of getting paid and if LA is a bonus for his payment do not discount the Clippers. They have money, a good solid center, a young solid cast and I think he wouldnt mind competeing with Kobe. It likely wont happen but dont discount the Clippers.
Right now I'd have to say I give Cleveland a 30% chance of keeping him. Loyalty these days is played out by $$$$. A large market represents a whole lot more earning potential then a small financial distress market.