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Beninator said:
Are you sure that you didn't leave your wife at Hoops and take a "bathroom break" for an hour or two to go to Al's? j/k lol ;-)
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No:lol: Last time I went to one of those places, I lost three layers of skin scrubbing the perfume and body lotion off me, trying to get rid of my trail:lol:
 
I have never booed the players or the coaches but I understood why some chose to do so after what transpired the other night, very unacceptable to lose 3 games in a row at home to teams I believe we are better then, unless changes are made I am afraid BU will be playing in St.Louis on thurs. night which is unacceptable for a team that has the talent to finish in the top 3 of the conference.
The best thing that can happen is for DSE to get back sooner as he is my answer for our best point guard on this team.
These are the players based on performance that deserve to start when DSE returns:
DSE
A.W
CR
TB
WE
They give us the best chance of winning and would be a very hard team to beat.
 
real fan said:
These are the players based on performance that deserve to start when DSE returns:
DSE
A.W
CR
TB
WE
They give us the best chance of winning and would be a very hard team to beat.
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I completely agree and was thinking of that very same thing about an hour ago!
 
shaunguth said:
At least until you catch he!! for standing up from the people SITTING behind you! :confused:
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funny thing...the people where I sit will stand.....they don't usually start it but will when others do......Besides not evreyone has to stand. If some stand and others yell......it might make a difference.......I don't think we have much to lose by trying to react differently during crunch time than we have the last few games....
 
lefty said:
funny thing...the people where I sit will stand.....they don't usually start it but will when others do......Besides not evreyone has to stand. If some stand and others yell......it might make a difference.......I don't think we have much to lose by trying to react differently during crunch time than we have the last few games....
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I've personally seen more than one argument between fans because someone was standing up and cheering on our team! :-o
 
shaunguth said:
I've personally seen more than one argument between fans because someone was standing up and cheering on our team! :-o
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I've had a few instances where I've been told in a not so friendly manner to sit down. Of course I was sitting in some very very nice (read expensive) seats that I was lucky enough to get when someone else couldn't use them. That being said I didn't want to say anything back since that area has a lot of high dollar boosters sitting in it AND they were my boss' tickets.

Can't WE ALL just stand and yell and give some energy to OUR TEAM when they so desperately need it? Apparently those of us who do so don't pay enough for our tickets.
 
Braves4Life said:
Just curious Beni -- What would you suggest the current administration do to show they are dedicated to fielding a top tier Valley program? I would argue that they have done, and are doing, all that they can to allow this to happen. They have given Les free reign to hire/fire his assistants (or have they?). They have brought in someone who appears to be a qualified AD who has led his previous institution to multiple sports successes). The new athletic facilities have moved forward at a rapid pace.

I like that our administration demands academic excellence and high character from our athletes. I would not want us to become SIU, Tennesse, UK, KU, or some of the other programs that are filled with derelicts, convicts, and the unintelligent.

Also, I'm not sure I agree that the MVC is better today than it was a decade ago. I'd say it's about the same.
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Ok fair question! My main point is here...I look around at some of the teams that we play and see a bench stocked with assistant coaches. Last year, I had seats behind the Pacific bench and I swear that they had an assistant coach in charge of washing the jock straps! I realize that in itself does not make a winning team. Does anyone have an idea what we pay our assistants? I look at our current assistants and with the exception of one assistant coach, I don't see a lot of experience even for what I would think of for a qualified assistant coach. Certainly a top assistant is a priority for BU, but are we going to pay the money required to get that quality assistant? Given what I have seen on our bench, I would argue that we could use 2 new assistants. Someone remind me, but didn't Versace have Barone and Keeling at the same time? In short, good coaches rely on and delegate authority to their assistants. I think that we need to ante up in the assistant coach category but am not certain BU will do so.


I am also very much in agreement with you about not getting derelicts et al into the program like other schools.
 
Just Stating the Obvious

Just Stating the Obvious

Also, I just wanted to state the obvious. I'm sure it's been said somewhere else, but I don't know when and where so here is what makes me absolutely sick to my stomach when I look at our record...

IF we would have closed the three games we blew...we would be sitting at:

9-3 overall, 2-0 in the valley which would put us in a three-way tie for first (third place if you consider overall records). I'd be happy with that and I think everyone else here would be too as well as the NCAA selection committee (at this very early point in the season).

How much of this blame can be put on the coach(es) and how much on the player(s)? We lost the SIU game because we couldn't stop turning over the ball in the last minute and a half. Coaches to blame? I'm not so sure. I'm not defending the coaching staff as I don't feel they are doing the best job, but let's not cast all the blame on JL and company. More than one party has been at fault here.

ALSO look at where WE COULD HAVE BEEN if we had the will to win and PLAYED TO WIN instead of PLAYING NOT TO LOSE.

Ehh. I'm getting all worked up before today's game. The heck with it. The past is the past. Lets win TODAY and build on that for the rest of this season.
 
ManMythLegend said:
Also, I just wanted to state the obvious. I'm sure it's been said somewhere else, but I don't know when and where so here is what makes me absolutely sick to my stomach when I look at our record...

IF we would have closed the three games we blew...we would be sitting at:

9-3 overall, 2-0 in the valley which would put us in a three-way tie for first (third place if you consider overall records). I'd be happy with that and I think everyone else here would be too as well as the NCAA selection committee (at this very early point in the season).

How much of this blame can be put on the coach(es) and how much on the player(s)? We lost the SIU game because we couldn't stop turning over the ball in the last minute and a half. Coaches to blame? I'm not so sure. I'm not defending the coaching staff as I don't feel they are doing the best job, but let's not cast all the blame on JL and company. More than one party has been at fault here.

ALSO look at where WE COULD HAVE BEEN if we had the will to win and PLAYED TO WIN instead of PLAYING NOT TO LOSE.

Ehh. I'm getting all worked up before today's game. The heck with it. The past is the past. Lets win TODAY and build on that for the rest of this season.
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Yes, you can blame the coaches. First, they recruited the players that turn the ball over in crunch time, they coach those players what to do in crunch time, and they put those players in that position. Yes, it is easy to throw some blame at the coaches.

I'm pining for a point guard like Billy Wright who may not have been a good shooter, but could take control of the ball and always could break a press, made good decisions, and rarely turned the ball over. Neither of our point guards have those qualities on a consistent basis (except the not being able to shoot part :lol:).
 
Beninator said:
Ok fair question! My main point is here...I look around at some of the teams that we play and see a bench stocked with assistant coaches. Last year, I had seats behind the Pacific bench and I swear that they had an assistant coach in charge of washing the jock straps! I realize that in itself does not make a winning team. Does anyone have an idea what we pay our assistants? I look at our current assistants and with the exception of one assistant coach, I don't see a lot of experience even for what I would think of for a qualified assistant coach. Certainly a top assistant is a priority for BU, but are we going to pay the money required to get that quality assistant? Given what I have seen on our bench, I would argue that we could use 2 new assistants. Someone remind me, but didn't Versace have Barone and Keeling at the same time? In short, good coaches rely on and delegate authority to their assistants. I think that we need to ante up in the assistant coach category but am not certain BU will do so.


I am also very much in agreement with you about not getting derelicts et al into the program like other schools.
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I've been saying that getting a top asst. if Jl is on the hot seat next year may be a challenge
 
ManMythLegend said:
How much of this blame can be put on the coach(es) and how much on the player(s)? We lost the SIU game because we couldn't stop turning over the ball in the last minute and a half. Coaches to blame? I'm not so sure. I'm not defending the coaching staff as I don't feel they are doing the best job, but let's not cast all the blame on JL and company. More than one party has been at fault here.

ALSO look at where WE COULD HAVE BEEN if we had the will to win and PLAYED TO WIN instead of PLAYING NOT TO LOSE.
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I blame the coach because we should never have been in that position to start with. I'd have had EM play up to the 2 minute mark and then bring in a fresh SM to control those last 2 minutes. I also like substituting guys in and out for defensive and offensive possessions when you have TOs and you are ahead. JL has not been managing the games that well this year IMO. Something is just not clicking. I'm a JL fan but he needs someone on his bench that is not a yes man!
 
SFP said:
I blame the coach because we should never have been in that position to start with. I'd have had EM play up to the 2 minute mark and then bring in a fresh SM to control those last 2 minutes. I also like substituting guys in and out for defensive and offensive possessions when you have TOs and you are ahead. JL has not been managing the games that well this year IMO. Something is just not clicking. ![I'm a JL fan but he needs someone on his bench that is not a yes man
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I think he had one but he fired him:roll:
 
lefty said:
I've been saying that getting a top asst. if Jl is on the hot seat next year may be a challenge
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I know that you and some other posters have been saying that....

It could also be an opportunity if BU spends the $$$ for a top assistant(s).
 
Da Coach said:
BUFAN, I don't know where you get your info, you are completely wrong.

Sam had a lot of interest from D1s but he verballed to Bradley in August before his senior season. He wanted to play for BU and Coach Les, and knew he would have playing time right away. He had a fantastic senior season and would certainly have gotten many more D1 offers. You don't have to believe me, just ask anyone familiar with Illinois basketball. Better yet, Sam's dad is at every game, ask him.
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Coach did you ever find out who offered SM? I do not have any resources or know where to look.
 
Sam had other offers, and had interest from numerous other midmajors and a couple Big Ten schools. His offers were limited because he committed to Bradley in August before his senior season.
 
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