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Report of Jim Les firing

tornado said:
by end of summer Will Egolf will also have his degree and be a post-grad student and can transfer without penalty.
I don't know that's what he'd want -- and I am sure he'll want to see who gets hired....but there clearly is a chance he may want to leave and play elsewhere.


I have been a season ticket holder through the last five head coach firings.....and none were as lacking in dignity and civility as this one, and I doubt anyone who knows the facts can disagree. I am still a Bradley fan but have a bad feel for the direction all BU sports programs are headed...
If we lose Jim DeRose, then even soccer will be headed down the same path...
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I could respond to your 1st paragraph but it would be deleted . I am in total agreement with your 2nd paragraph. Some of the things I've heard from good sources make you wonder whats going on up there. But it doesn't make you wonder whose running the show.
 
basketball nut said:
I haven't posted anything about this until now as I wanted to post what my feelings were after thinking about it instead of just spouting off.....
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"Much more fun to just spout off!"

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srw said:
Its clearly going to drop on a number more people that is correct.
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It's evidently not going to "drop" on the assistant coaches. According to the PJS they've been given the option of returning. That can't sit well with ANY incoming coach.
 
TNel said:
It's evidently not going to "drop" on the assistant coaches. According to the PJS they've been given the option of returning. That can't sit well with ANY incoming coach.
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I would think its till a new coach comes in and evaluates the situation.....but that is just me...
 
the first 4 quesiotns any decent coaching candidate will want to know about the open position are...

-salary
-length of contract offered
-can he have choose his own staff and recruit his own players without interference
-will the department be free of interference and/or turmoil..
 
tornado said:
the first 4 quesiotns (sic) any decent coaching candidate will want to know about the open position are...

-salary
-length of contract offered
-can he have choose his own staff and recruit his own players without interference
-will the department be free of interference and/or turmoil..
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Personally, I could live without #'s three and four as a Univ Prez, if the head coaching candidate would also agree on immediate termination and voiding of his contract if said coach's program was found in violation of NCAA rules, or, if any player interferred with the image/reputation of the school or caused turmoil in the school's community!

Complete authority demands complete accountability...otherwise...

(see "The Federal Reserve", Goldman Sachs, et al)
 
tornado said:
the first 4 quesiotns any decent coaching candidate will want to know about the open position are...

-salary
-length of contract offered
-can he have choose his own staff and recruit his own players without interference
-will the department be free of interference and/or turmoil..
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Salary is probably unmovable at BU. So why would they apply if they want $500k+? Jim's salary is known by everyone.

Choosing his own staff will be up to the coach, I believe.

The interference is an opinion. As I said earlier, KK was known as a micro-manager, so nothing as changed in that department.
 
BradleyJD said:
Choosing his own staff will be up to the coach, I believe.
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amckillip said:
I believe this incorrect.
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PJStar has a quote from Dr. Cross

http://www.pjstar.com/bradleyhoops/x1777795271/Bradley-assistant-in-transition-role

???They??™re all thinking about their future,??? Cross said. ???Each has their own individual situations trying to sort out. The coach coming in will have the opportunity to select their staff.???

Seems like the new coach will have his options.
 
BradleyJD said:
PJStar has a quote from Dr. Cross

http://www.pjstar.com/bradleyhoops/x1777795271/Bradley-assistant-in-transition-role

“They’re all thinking about their future,” Cross said. “Each has their own individual situations trying to sort out. The coach coming in will have the opportunity to select their staff.”

Seems like the new coach will have his options.
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Cross also said he made the decision to fire JL. I know that not to be true. I would bet a tall frosty glass that at least Platt is retained.
 
Can anyone point to any specifics as to how this coaching change was handled any differently than when Coach Mo was let go by BU?

Other than the emotional issue of JL's heroic status among BU fans vs Mo's?

In an age of cell, text, tweet, facebook, twitter, anonymous leaks, instant usage of the media to further one's position, I imagine things are somewhat different than 9 years ago when trying to manage key personnel changes. Would guess legal aspects of such changes have also evolved making these things even more difficult to manage.

I think people are trying to make mountains out of mole hills and should let the process play out. Sometime early next fall is the time to reflect on the change and the affect on the program. Right now, its just rabble rousing.
 
Whether you were for or against the firing of Les, one good thing has come of this situation:

There is a more open discussion of the (justified) reasons for the ever-increasing resentment towards the administration.

While posts on here are not in great detail, I am glad that people who care about the University are getting at least a taste of the inner-workings at the school. Since all most people hear about is the end, I'm glad that this ordeal has enlightened some of the means to the end. That way more people can make up their minds about whether or not the end is justified.
 
AZ BU Fan said:
Sometime early next fall is the time to reflect on the change and the affect on the program. Right now, its just rabble rousing.
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Personally, I would say the fall of 2013 or 2014 is when true reflection on the change and affect on the program can begin. The rhetoric we heard with JL was 'give him time, let him get his own players' etc. Some natives started to get restless, but those who said 'wait' were proven right, and in year 4 we started getting some results. People lose all credibility if they don't give this next guy the same time to put his mark on the program.

As far as how the university works right now, most people won't care if we start winning basketball games. There were a lot of people that didn't care for the way Ken Kavanagh micromanaged people in his department either. I liked Ken a lot, but that's a reputation he had. At the end of the day, it's a business. I don't know anyone who hasn't come across someone in their line of work that they didn't agree with philosophically or didn't see eye to eye with. It happens. At the end of the day it's about results. If the style that's prevalent now ends up yielding great results, there won't be much to complain about. If it doesn't, the resentment will increase tenfold.
 
VeveJones007 said:
Whether you were for or against the firing of Les, one good thing has come of this situation:

There is a more open discussion of the (justified) reasons for the ever-increasing resentment towards the administration.

While posts on here are not in great detail, I am glad that people who care about the University are getting at least a taste of the inner-workings at the school. Since all most people hear about is the end, I'm glad that this ordeal has enlightened some of the means to the end. That way more people can make up their minds about whether or not the end is justified.
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+1

I am sure many of our posters know people whose lives have been affected by administration decisions. Changes made just for the sake of change. Changes made to bring in new personnel, some who were personal friends. Alot of the posters are smart enough to know when someone got the shaft. And I am not talking of changes just made in the athletic dept.
 
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