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Rick Majerus Wants Out of A-10 and In MVC

I am not sure why either Dayton or DePaul would want to leave their present situation to move to the MVC. Butler and SLU would be logical choices outside shot to a Western Kentucky.

I really would prefer in basketball terms to simply replace Evansville with SLU.

I dont know how often or if it is able to be done but removing Evansville and replacing them with SLU might be a good way to keep everything the way it is in terms of 10 teams. Evansville has shown little committment to their athletics programs and from looking at it as an outsider they seem to be doing everything on a shoe string budget and are not commited to a strong Division 1 program.
 
BradleyBrave said:
Heck, that's almost better than my public and private idea. It certainly keeps the natural geographical rivalries intact (BU-ISU, BU-SIU), which is kind of important I think. Let's go with it! :)
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And only having to face Creighton once a year certainly wouldn't hurt.
 
houstontxbrave said:
I am not sure why either Dayton or DePaul would want to leave their present situation to move to the MVC. Butler and SLU would be logical choices outside shot to a Western Kentucky.

I really would prefer in basketball terms to simply replace Evansville with SLU.

I dont know how often or if it is able to be done but removing Evansville and replacing them with SLU might be a good way to keep everything the way it is in terms of 10 teams. Evansville has shown little committment to their athletics programs and from looking at it as an outsider they seem to be doing everything on a shoe string budget and are not commited to a strong Division 1 program.
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Didn't the Drake often get mentioned (before this year) in the Evansville category of MVC schools the "MVC might be better off if they left" category?
 
ph said:
Didn't the Drake often get mentioned (before this year) in the Evansville category of MVC schools the "MVC might be better off if they left" category?
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I am sure they were mentioned. Their situation is a little different in that they are a founding member of the conference. They did commit to their program by building the arena they now play in. Evansville has eliminated athletic department positions and their fan base has dwindled and it appears their commitment to a strong athletic department is non existant.
 
Was Evansville added to replace Tulsa? We should have taken Oral Roberts over Evansville both were former Horizon League members clearly ORU is a much better program than EU.
 
2bradleyfans said:
Was Evansville added to replace Tulsa? We should have taken Oral Roberts over Evansville both were former Horizon League members clearly ORU is a much better program than EU.
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No, UE did not replace Tula. Evansville joined the MVC in 1994.
Tulsa left after the '95-'96 season. So they were both in the MVC together for 2 seasons.
 
Da Coach said:
No, UE did not replace Tula. Evansville joined the MVC in 1994.
Tulsa left after the '95-'96 season. So they were both in the MVC together for 2 seasons.
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That's right.... the MVC had 11 teams for a couple years. We had unbalanced scheduling.

TRIVIA TIME

Can anyone name the teams we only played 1 time in those 2 seasons?
 
I understand some people do not enjoy listening to Majerus...yet on a positive side, adding SLU would add a major TV market to the MVC. In addition, Majerus would draw a considerable amount of media coverage both print and TV. Again, positive for the MVC.

There was one concern noted earlier about the location of the MVC tournament. It could easily be moved to KC. In some respects, this would be more favorable for schools such as WSU, Creighton, and Drake. For MSU, it is an even swap. Granted it would be less desirable for those who live in Peoria who make the annual road trip.

As to the debate whether or not to add Butler or "sack" Evansville, I am sure there are many contractual issues to overcome in both scenarios. Even so, it makes for some fun ideas but IMO SLU / Butler makes the conference stronger whereas Evansville is dragging down the RPI.
 
How hard is it to kick a program out! If it is easy kick out Evansville add SLU, Butler and Xavier. Why would Depaul leave the Big East?????? Sorry not going to happen.
 
I'd wait a couple years, because I get the funny feeling the Gateway is going to try something funny, i.e. jump to 1A football soon. That might break things up.

Also wait for the Big East to collapse on its own weight, go to 12 teams for football, and pick up DePaul and Marquette on the rebound.

Predicted New Valley

Creighton
Wichita St
The Drake
Bradley
Evansville
DePaul
Marquette
St Louis
Xavier
Dayton
 
That'd be a pretty fantastic basketball conference... Though Evansville would be really weak in there. :) Couldn't we get Villanova in there too perhaps?
 
I know it's fun to specualte and all but I think you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. First, I don't see why DePaul would leave the Big East, as much as I love the Valley it just wouldn't make sense financially. I understand why SLU would want to join but I just don't see another major realignment of college basketball happening anytime soon.
 
BUBraves06 said:
I know it's fun to specualte and all but I think you guys are getting way ahead of yourselves. First, I don't see why DePaul would leave the Big East, as much as I love the Valley it just wouldn't make sense financially. I understand why SLU would want to join but I just don't see another major realignment of college basketball happening anytime soon.
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They'll leave when the Big East goes to 12 for football and they're forced out :)
 
TheAsianSensation said:
They'll leave when the Big East goes to 12 for football and they're forced out :)
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Are you kidding me and force Georgetown DC market, St. Johns their NY city market , Vilanova Philly's market . These schools do not have D-1 football programs and never will and you are telling me that they'll get the boot also?
 
numbr_9 said:
or, add another 2 schools (Xavier & dayton) and shift SIU to the west.
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I don't see Xavier or Dayton ever joining the MVC. I think it would be awesome, but I don't see it happening. The idea of Butler joining the MVC seems kind of far stretched also. I have a feeling that they like the conference they are in, they have a better chance of getting an automatic bid every year. The only way they'd join is if we became a very well known power conference, which I don't think will happen just with the addition of SLU. The idea of having a bunch of very good private and public schools in the MVC is exciting to me though. Can you imagine the intensity just the regular season would be, let alone Arch Madness. I wouldn't mind an addition or two, as long as they bring the competitiveness up for the league. TULSA COME BACK haha
 
Bradleyguy10 said:
I don't see Xavier or Dayton ever joining the MVC. I think it would be awesome, but I don't see it happening. The idea of Butler joining the MVC seems kind of far stretched also. I have a feeling that they like the conference they are in, they have a better chance of getting an automatic bid every year. The only way they'd join is if we became a very well known power conference, which I don't think will happen just with the addition of SLU. The idea of having a bunch of very good private and public schools in the MVC is exciting to me though. Can you imagine the intensity just the regular season would be, let alone Arch Madness. I wouldn't mind an addition or two, as long as they bring the competitiveness up for the league. TULSA COME BACK haha
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I wouldn't completely rule out the potential for Xavier and Dayton. When Creighton has played these teams the last several years, there have been multiple statements by their respective fanbases about their dislike of the A10. In terms of geography, those two schools are just as ill-suited to the conference as SLU.

I agree its very, very remote, but never say never.
 
SanFranciscoPete said:
Are you kidding me and force Georgetown DC market, St. Johns their NY city market , Vilanova Philly's market . These schools do not have D-1 football programs and never will and you are telling me that they'll get the boot also?
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Georgetown and Villanova will upgrade to 1-A football under this scenario.

Then add 2 outside teams. Since there's no freakin' way you can have an 18 team conference, Marquette and Depaul get hung out. Valley adds them.

I still think everyone should wait and watch, because the Big East can't stay at 8 football members for very much longer, and the chain reaction to it will be massive.
 
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