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Steve Alford to New Mexico - Done Deal

Has anyone ever mentioned the recruiting "scam" disguised as a charitable organization that feeds the foreign players to Decatur Prep and other schools?
Various state high school rules and NCAA rules prohibit outside dollars from rounding up players and funnelling them to select high schools, then paying their tuition.
But this all gets done with the ultimate goal of getting the kids to colleges, then the pros, where a big return can be seen in the initial investment. When you hear about the tens of millions of dollars the pros get in salaries and shoe money, even a small amount of that in the European pros is still a big payoff for some of these "scams".
How come nobody asks where the money comes from to send these poor African kids to America, house them, pay tuition, etc.?
Why do the coaches of schools like Decatur Prep and AAU promoters like Reg Tisdale supposedly "serve" on the boards of charitable organizations, whose sole job is to pay the costs of getting players to the US and putting them on high school and AAU teams, interestingly coached by those very coaches and AAU promoter? (recall, big shoe dollars get spent at AAU events outside the scrutiny of state organizations and NCAA.)
Nobody ever seems to talk about this.
--- http://www.a-hope.org/
--- http://www.a-hope.org/Current Students.htm
 
That is interesting, all the wheels getting greased, so nobody seems to care.
As long as those players don't play in IHSA games, then nobody really does care.
Same thing in Chicago with Mac Koshwal moving to Illinois, living with his high school coach, having his official guardian legally changed to be his high school coach, then when he's declared ineligible because of overtly fraudulent transcripts, he just goes to prep school and keeps on playing.
Not too hard to figure out that his coach sees Koshwal as a fine meal ticket if he makes the pros.
Koshwal will be older than every player on the DePaul roster, even though he is just a freshman next season.

Everyone knows BTMA and Decatur Prep are using players who wouldn't be eligible if they were in IHSA, I have shown that as well.
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=6152
http://www.bradleyfans.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=387
 
If Koshwal plays a minute of hoops at Depaul, I'll run around Carver Arena in my boxers during the halftime of the BU/VCU game next year. In other words, it ain't happening...
 
Lou-
you are going to get cold, because it is almost a certainty that Koshwal will follow in the footsteps of his good Sudanese buddy Thijin Moses, who did go to DePaul and play this season.

I have always thought and said that I believed these overage, foreign players are somewhat overhyped as well, and Thijin Moses is just another case in proof.

Moses was very highly hyped and touted, was Blue Demons fans' hope for a great 3-point shooter, and yet barely saw court time at DePaul.
He averaged only 2 minutes per game and scored a total of only 23 points on the season.

http://www.depaulbluedemons.com/player.asp?CatID=2&ID=460
http://depaul.scout.com/2/623254.html


"Thijin Moses to DePaul
Jul 17, 2006
Another big time prep school player from the Sudan is going to play college ball this year. Thijin Moses, a 6-8 forward out of Boys to Men Academy in Chicago committed to DePaul University and should be eligible to play for the Blue Demons in the 2006-2007 season. Moses' teammate at Boys to Men, Mac Nyal Koshwal , also originally from the Sudan, might be joining him next year."
http://www.africabasket.com/SUD/SUD.asp
 
PeoriaLou said:
If Koshwal plays a minute of hoops at Depaul, I'll run around Carver Arena in my boxers during the halftime of the BU/VCU game next year. In other words, it ain't happening...
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Somebody Sticky this so we don't forget this promise. This will be classic. The only thing that remains in question is what kind of boxers. :lol:

Maybe Depaul, isu, or Illini boxers? :-P
 
I know it's a sad day for Illinois fans and the other Big 10 schools. With the right hire, Iowa might be done being a Big 10 afterthought. You can sum up the Alford era with 2 things - Pierre Pierce and Northwestern St.
 
Word is Alford's getting $1 million plus per year with 6 years guarantee.
This is as much and more with incentives than he was getting at Iowa.
 
tornado said:
Word is Alford's getting $1 million plus per year with 6 years guarantee.
This is as much and more with incentives than he was getting at Iowa.
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They'll regret the hell out of this. Alford will fail miserably at New Mexico.
 
DannyCooksey said:
tornado said:
Word is Alford's getting $1 million plus per year with 6 years guarantee.
This is as much and more with incentives than he was getting at Iowa.
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They'll regret the hell out of this. Alford will fail miserably at New Mexico.
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Agree 100%. I swear, these folks in Albequerque don't read the newspapers. Haven't they seen Alford's record of failure at Iowa, and his disregard for integrity in his basketball program? Haven't they heard the stories of him walking out on hefty bills at restaurants and not paying for his suits to tailored because he's 'the coach'?
 
BradleyBrave said:
DannyCooksey said:
tornado said:
Word is Alford's getting $1 million plus per year with 6 years guarantee.
This is as much and more with incentives than he was getting at Iowa.
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They'll regret the hell out of this. Alford will fail miserably at New Mexico.
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Agree 100%. I swear, these folks in Albequerque don't read the newspapers. Haven't they seen Alford's record of failure at Iowa, and his disregard for integrity in his basketball program? Haven't they heard the stories of him walking out on hefty bills at restaurants and not paying for his suits to tailored because he's 'the coach'?
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According to ESPN.com, the Lobos think they scored a major coup.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2807516

"According to sources, the Lobos consider it a major coup to land a Big Ten coach to replace the outgoing Ritchie McKay. Alford won two Big Ten tournament titles and took Iowa to the NCAA Tournament three times -- in 2001, 2005 and 2006."

A major coup to land Alford?????? :-o
 
Wait a minute -
I barely know Steve Alford, but I feel compelled to respond.
I hardly think blind-sided slams of a guy based on hearsay are fair, do you?
Did he cheat you out of a suit or walk out leaving you to pay the bill?
If not than I'd be a little careful believing what's said given the Alford-bashers' dispensity to confabulate.
I can hardly believe the coach is held responsible if a player commits a misdeed. Even if so, Alford's record of player misdeeds pales in comparison to what New Mexico has been observing over the past 5-7 years with bar fights, arrests, suicides, drug issues, transfers, even ex-players being murdered and ex-coaches covering it up.

Let the guy go.
He was a fine coach in the MVC and he hasn't done that bad a job in the BT,
nothing but winning seasons, Big Ten Tournament Championships, #2 seeds, spots in the national rankings, Sweet Sixteen appearance, numerous postseason appearances, and a whole lot of his time and money given to charitable causes.

So just who is New Mexico going to get that you think is any better?
I think in a couple years his critics will be eating their words.
 
Bravesguy said:
Wait a minute -
I barely know Steve Alford, but I feel compelled to respond.
I hardly think blind-sided slams of a guy based on hearsay are fair, do you?
Did he cheat you out of a suit or walk out leaving you to pay the bill?
If not than I'd be a little careful believing what's said given the Alford-bashers' dispensity to confabulate.
I can hardly believe the coach is held responsible if a player commits a misdeed. Even if so, Alford's record of player misdeeds pales in comparison to what New Mexico has been observing over the past 5-7 years with bar fights, arrests, suicides, drug issues, transfers, even ex-players being murdered and ex-coaches covering it up.

Let the guy go.
He was a fine coach in the MVC and he hasn't done that bad a job in the BT,
nothing but winning seasons, Big Ten Tournament Championships, #2 seeds, spots in the national rankings, Sweet Sixteen appearance, numerous postseason appearances, and a whole lot of his time and money given to charitable causes.

So just who is New Mexico going to get that you think is any better?
I think in a couple years his critics will be eating their words.
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The stuff about Alford skipping out on bills, etc. came out when he first took the job and was the toast of the town, not recently when he fell upon hard times. It's not convenient blindsiding, it's what happened.

Alford let a convicted rapist back on his basketball team, and used the front of a Christian group to try and talk the victim out of pressing charges. This isn't hearsay, this is documented fact.

Nothing but winning seasons? Maybe overall, but his record in conference play is terrible, and a few B10 Tournament wins don't overshadow his record of below average play in conference. Iowa has repeatedly fallen short of expectations under Alford's watch, and sacrificed their integrity in the process with the Pierre Pierce incidents. 3 NCAA's in his tenure at Iowa isn't saying much, considering they come from the Big 10. If he was as good as you seem to think he is, they'd have been pining for him in his native Indiana last year instead of opting for the biggest cheater in college basketball.

Who could UNM get that is better? There are plenty of people out there who are better coaches and better people. You'd think after hiring low-character guys like Dave Bliss, Fran Fraschilla, and Richie McKay, they'd opt for someone with a strong moral background. Obviously I was wrong. Oh well.
 
Bravesguy said:
Let the guy go.
He was a fine coach in the MVC and he hasn't done that bad a job in the BT,
nothing but winning seasons, Big Ten Tournament Championships, #2 seeds, spots in the national rankings, Sweet Sixteen appearance, numerous postseason appearances, and a whole lot of his time and money given to charitable causes.
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Don't mean to nitpick, but Iowa hasn't been a #2 seed under Alford....I think they were a #3 last year when they got upset in the first round. 8 years at Iowa, and only 1 NCAA tourney victory in that time.....hardly the "next level" that Iowa was hoping for when they canned Tom Davis. Davis made it to the 2nd round of the NCAA tourney 9 times in his 13 years at Iowa, Alford once in 8 years.

One of the local TV stations here (Des Moines) is running a poll on their website about whether people are happy or sad that Alford is leaving......happy leads 82% to 18%.

I think it was time for a change. Alford was able to do it on his own terms, rather than potentially being fired after next season.

It's probably one of these situations where both parties (Alford and the University of Iowa) will benefit.
 
This article calls New Mexico a MID-MAJOR! :twisted:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/10083286/rss

And before it gets edited:

"Alford left Iowa and the Big Ten to take over New Mexico's struggling mid-major program."

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