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To all that are jumping ship..........

Chico said:
IMO, the fans who left early were leaving because they thought the game was won, or should have been won. Don't think too many were expecting a half court winner.
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Well I hope that was the case. However there were posters here who said some were leaving just before the end of the game, which was really perplexing in my opinion.
 
Hey - I went to a movie..."Mamma Mia"...or something like that...
it was the worst movie I have ever seen...terrible, not worth the money..

but I am going to go and watch again another dozen times....and probably even buy season tickets to the same movie so that I can feel bad every time I see it and think up a few more complaints about it...
 
MacabreMob said:
As history repeats itself... it seems many who want Les gone were backers of Mo.
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Ok, let me set the record straight there...

I for one couldn't stand Mo...


I like Les as an individual, but he just isn't taking the program where it should be headed at this point...


After 7 years, we should've had at least 1 championship given our current talent...


He has brought in much more talent than Mo, but with less overall results.


Yes, we may have beaten Illinois, and most will use that as a crutch all year, but not I. I expect more from this talented group and we're just not getting it.


Into Year 8, you have to start wondering after different groups of players if they aren't the problem, but the staff is.
 
There seems to be a misconception here that permeates these discussions regarding being a real fan or not. Kool Aid drinkers are "real fans". Fans who are not very happy with direction of this program are also "real fans." I'll go out on a limb here and say that we ALL want this program to win. We ALL want to us to return to the NCAA tourney in March. We ALL want to win our home games against the likes of Loyola.

Just because some "real fans" want more from and for the program does not necessarily make them less a fan than the "real fans" who currently see nothing wrong with where we are at. Don't we all wear the same colors here?
 
Chico said:
The only ones who wanted Dick V. gone were the backers of the previous coach. Dick's only bad year, record wise, was his first year.
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MacabreMob said:
As history repeats itself... it seems many who want Les gone were backers of Mo.
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My points exactly!!! We need continuity for a program to survive and thrive. There are/were some people out there who want(ed) the coach fired in both instances because of their personal agendas with little thought about what is best for Bradley. Don't get me wrong, there are times when replacing a coach is good for the program and the school, but IMO we are not at that point at the current time.

Chico, I think the people who were beating the drums for Versace being replaced were doing so after a mediocre year or two after the NIT championship. I was trying to do a search of our record in the 1980's but couldn't find anything in the limited time I had available. Irregardless, those people were clearly wrong at that time.

Also, I think the new AD should incorporate a history of Bradley Basketball records, stats, etc on their internet site. Just a suggestion that should merit low priority among the mix of tasks he will face when he gets here. jmho...
 
versace4pres said:
There seems to be a misconception here that permeates these discussions regarding being a real fan or not. Kool Aid drinkers are "real fans". Fans who are not very happy with direction of this program are also "real fans." I'll go out on a limb here and say that we ALL want this program to win. We ALL want to us to return to the NCAA tourney in March. We ALL want to win our home games against the likes of Loyola.

Just because some "real fans" want more from and for the program does not necessarily make them less a fan than the "real fans" who currently see nothing wrong with where we are at. Don't we all wear the same colors here?
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Ditto.
 
patrick_o'brian said:
Just don't come to the next game! That way I will have the best seats in the house. Hell, don't come at all for the rest of the year. Donate your tickets to charity, that will show Dr. Cross that you guys mean business alright! I guess I was just as upset last night after the game, but we are 5-4, lost twice at home, but it's a long season, and we BEAT ILLINOIS! This team is a TOP 3 Valley team and will finish in the TOP 3. I don't understand how people are talking right now about a 7th or 8th place finish. Right now we are the 1st place team in the Valley, and will be until a VALLEY team beats us! Thanks in advance for the GREAT SEATS at the next game! ;) GO BU!
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I have not read one post that says someone is jumping ship! However, I have read posts that reflect the appropriate frustration and disappointment. Who said that they were jumping ship? No one!
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
Ok, let me set the record straight there...

I for one couldn't stand Mo...


I like Les as an individual, but he just isn't taking the program where it should be headed at this point...


After 7 years, we should've had at least 1 championship given our current talent...


He has brought in much more talent than Mo, but with less overall results.


Yes, we may have beaten Illinois, and most will use that as a crutch all year, but not I. I expect more from this talented group and we're just not getting it.


Into Year 8, you have to start wondering after different groups of players if they aren't the problem, but the staff is.
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I'm not sure J.L. is bringing in more talent , although I'm happy with the talent he is bringing in.
Anthony Parker, Danny Grainger weren't to bad.

J.L. would have had titles if P.O.B. had stayed 4 years.

J.L. would of had titles if we hadn't had all the recent injuries.
 
afan said:
I have not read one post that says someone is jumping ship! However, I have read posts that reflect the appropriate frustration and disappointment. Who said that they were jumping ship? No one!
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I'm not jumping ship. I would just like a better boat that sails through a full trip to it's destination and wins a regatta every once in a while.
 
BRADLEY FAN 49 said:
J.L. would have had titles if P.O.B. had stayed 4 years.

J.L. would of had titles if we hadn't had all the recent injuries.
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I'm not sure I can agree with that as we finished 4th the year the team peaked and even with all of the injuries, most of those teams showed no signs of breaking ahead of the pack.
 
Bravesfan said:
Well I hope that was the case. However there were posters here who said some were leaving just before the end of the game, which was really perplexing in my opinion.
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One thing to keep in mind, a lot of people watch the final minute or so from the concourse and the entrances to the lower bowl. So even if it looks like people are leaving, they might just be moving to nearer the exit.
 
Buesch N Chips said:
One thing to keep in mind, a lot of people watch the final minute or so from the concourse and the entrances to the lower bowl. So even if it looks like people are leaving, they might just be moving to nearer the exit.
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I always hated those kind of people. I really got a kick out of Chuck Buescher making fun of these people rushing out to beat that terrible Peoria traffic:lol:
 
afan said:
I have not read one post that says someone is jumping ship! However, I have read posts that reflect the appropriate frustration and disappointment. Who said that they were jumping ship? No one!
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I guess to retort this. When there is an ENTIRE thread entitled "Time to find a new sport to watch", to me, that is jumping ship. I understand the frustration and disappointment but I will not stop going to games nor will I rip a coach, nor will I rip a player, nor will I compare past coaches to previous coaches or even rip previous coaches. 5-4 is not a good record! I will concede that, but things have been turned around before and as I look at the roster, I do not see an empty cupboard. There is a TON of talent on this team and I can assure you that Jim Les knows this!
 
patrick_o'brian said:
I guess to retort this. When there is an ENTIRE thread entitled "Time to find a new sport to watch", to me, that is jumping ship. I understand the frustration and disappointment but I will not stop going to games nor will I rip a coach, nor will I rip a player, nor will I compare past coaches to previous coaches or even rip previous coaches. 5-4 is not a good record! I will concede that, but things have been turned around before and as I look at the roster, I do not see an empty cupboard. There is a TON of talent on this team and I can assure you that Jim Les knows this!
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Who do you think you are?!?!

What makes you think you are a better fan than someone else?

How dare you!

;-) :lol:
 
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