Two Bradley Freshmen to redshirt

[ph]

Yeah, (2) 200+ lb 6'3" guards and a 6'9" guard don't necessarily support your position there...


That would be like Bradley playing Milos at the 3 while having Andrew and DSE in running the point...

I could not keep up with the line changes on the radio, did Milos only replace Brown or was Milos subbing some for CR?

I don't if ever expect to see Jim have that lineup out...


Although I believe I did mention yesterday that it would be nice to have Anthony and Will on the floor at the same time with Will at the 4.


This whole 3 or 4 guard offense is just plain dumb. Why adhere to what everyone else is doing when you can make them matchup to you?

In reality, there should be times where AT/Will/Taylor make up the front line as both Will and Taylor can step out and knock down 16' jumpers.

Not only that, we don't exactly have more than 1 outstanding 3-pt shooter, so why play small?

You give up way too much of strength and rebounding.

Half our rebounding problem is because we jack up a shot and run back to play D. At a game last year, I saw the perfect example. SM (I believe) took an unguarded 3 point shot and ran back to play D, well the shot missed, and bounced back to the exact same spot SM took the shot from. I think the ball bounced out of bounds because no one was there.

Not that it means a ton, but Jim Les is the first coach in MVC history to have played (2) 7' guys (POB and BH) at the same time.. I guess it was no effective enough to continue.

 

[SaintLouBrave22]

I could not keep up with the line changes on the radio, did Milos only replace Brown or was Milos subbing some for CR?


Half our rebounding problem is because we jack up a shot and run back to play D. At a game last year, I saw the perfect example. SM (I believe) took an unguarded 3 point shot and ran back to play D, well the shot missed, and bounced back to the exact same spot SM took the shot from. I think the ball bounced out of bounds because no one was there.

Not that it means a ton, but Jim Les is the first coach in MVC history to have played (2) 7' guys (POB and BH) at the same time.. I guess it was no effective enough to continue.

Milos seemed to be playing the 4, which IMO, BIG mistake!

Yeah, the team does tend to have the run down and fire quickly issue at times, but lets be honest, Sammy can't get a rebound unless a) a guy falls down, b) it falls into his hands, or c) the guy is slower than him and doesn't know where it is...

If you're hoping for Sammy to get a handful of rebounds then we'll have a MUCH bigger problem.


Lastly, think about what you said there, Patrick who had trouble hustling 90% of the time down the court, and Brandyn who just couldn't get down the court...

Comparing those two and their quickness/agility/size to Will and AT is not even a fair comparison...

That would be like lining up Sam Singh and Anthony Thompson and having them run a 2X100 relay against Chris Roberts and Eddren McCain.

 

[basketball nut]

Milos seemed to be playing the 4, which IMO, BIG mistake!


Why do you see that as a "BIG" mistake? Milos is a true 4 by definition and has that Europeon style of play. He can go inside but can also hit that outside shot. No he didn't on Sunday but from what I have heard from people that have watched him practice he has a nice outside shot and isn't afraid to bang on the inside. Can also handle the ball but needs to learn also when to give it up as seen on the 1 fast break Sunday

 

[SaintLouBrave22]

Milos seemed to be playing the 4, which IMO, BIG mistake!


Why do you see that as a "BIG" mistake? Milos is a true 4 by definition and has that Europeon style of play. He can go inside but can also hit that outside shot. No he didn't on Sunday but from what I have heard from people that have watched him practice he has a nice outside shot and isn't afraid to bang on the inside. Can also handle the ball but needs to learn also when to give it up as seen on the 1 fast break Sunday

Actually by true European standards and definition, he is a 3.

 

[Double D]

Actually by true European standards and definition, he is a 3.

By Valley standards (which in this case are the only ones that matter) Milos is a 4. The ball handing skills necessary to help deal with pressure along with defensive quickness to play against the "guard-like" Valley players make him that by default.

It's not a fault of his, but as a freshman who's biggest talents are passing and shooting (not defense and ball handing) the 4 is were he ends up if he is going to play.

 

[Beninator]

Actually by true European standards and definition, he is a 3.

I agree. Milos may turn into a 4 way down the road, but he has to put on a quite a few pounds first!!!

 

[ph]

Milos seemed to be playing the 4, which IMO, BIG mistake!

Why do you see that as a "BIG" mistake? Milos is a true 4 by definition and has that Europeon style of play. He can go inside but can also hit that outside shot. No he didn't on Sunday but from what I have heard from people that have watched him practice he has a nice outside shot and isn't afraid to bang on the inside. Can also handle the ball but needs to learn also when to give it up as seen on the 1 fast break Sunday

If Milos is that good, and Brown is as good as some think, then there are not enough minutes at the 4. Then if we get Wilkins, is he a 4, too? That would be way too much "special" talent sharing 40 minutes. (Much like we currently have too much talent in SM and EM to only play point) It may be necessary for Milos to play as a 3 so we can always keep 5 great players on the floor.

I'm glad to see that Roberts is still a 3 this year, but we will need someone to be that combination of inside/outside player next year..

 

[mrcoachdude]

Milos, Brown, and (if we get Wilkins) can play the 3 as well....in my opinion anyway...but we all have those heh?

I like the versatility that these guys have.......

 

[cpacmel]

This is a serious question and I hope I don't get flamed for it, just because I am an ISU fan.

Do basketball players at Bradley have any say on being redshirted or not?

 

[mrcoachdude]

This is a serious question and I hope I don't get flamed for it, just because I am an ISU fan.

Do basketball players at Bradley have any say on being redshirted or not?

I think the payers have a say.....judging by the quotes I have read....it was a sit down and talk it through to see what makes sense....sounds like they even talked about it when JE was recruited?...

 

[FutureBrave2013]

Yeah, (2) 200+ lb 6'3" guards and a 6'9" guard don't necessarily support your position there...

That is Butler's roster this season, which is a lot different than it was 3 years ago when they went to the sweet 16.

Butler started 6'0", 6'0", 6'5", 6'6", and 6'8" and had no one who could score with their back to the basket. That team took Florida, who had a huge front line, to the wire in the sweet 16.

Size is a luxury. You can be a good basketball team without it.

 

[jeffsu]

I think the payers have a say.....judging by the quotes I have read....it was a sit down and talk it through to see what makes sense....sounds like they even talked about it when JE was recruited?...

Agreed. It sounds like it's strong suggestion (seeing as how the coaches are the only ones who really have an inkling of what the rotation/minute-distribution looks like) from the coaches, but that the player could say no, but they would likely not be getting many minutes at all.

Rather have a huge 5th year senior year than a few minutes to tinker around during your freshman year. Plus, it allows them to balance the coursework a little better (as many majors can take over 4 years anyway)

 

[thefish7]

I would think the player has a lot of input into a decision. In the Prosser case, the staff worked very hard to get him to come to BU, so I have to think they wouldn't do something that would upset him greatly.

 

[CubbieBear]

Did you really expect Prosser to log big minutes this year? I did last year, but what I have seen and read, I don't think he's ready and think it's a wise move not to waste a year of his eligibility.

When I saw him (granted only twice) last season, I didn't see him having any serious playing time in the Valley this year--not ready for that kind of competition. Hopefully a year of practice and getting stronger will benefit him and BU.

 

[SFP]

I bet they had a lot of input as well as their parents. For a kid RSing could seem to be a major let down but having your family involved in the process would help alleviate some of those misgivings.

 

[thefish7]

JL tweet just came to my phone:

The point was clearly stated w/2 reps of the paper there: Ea. player was offrd opp to redshirt...NO ONE WAS FORCED....accountability?

 

[SaintLouBrave22]

JL tweet just came to my phone:

The point was clearly stated w/2 reps of the paper there: Ea. player was offrd opp to redshirt...NO ONE WAS FORCED....accountability?

Yeah, I'd say he's a little more than pissed about the context it is being taken in...

BTW...did you read his current one...very funny about Magic.

 

[BradleyBrave]

The original headline yesterday was flat-out terrible. I would be p-ssed if I was JL as well. Just irresponsible.

 

[tornado]

it appears to be quite a strong statement...almost as if Coach is adding a post to this thread!!!
http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=13505

two representatives of the PJ Star were there when the kids made their decision to redshirt AND each player was offered the chance to choose, nobody was forced....
yet the paper paints it differently and the tweet calls for accountability!!
the picture even suggests a bit peeved...
http://twitter.com/CoachJimLes/status/5659163387

 

[Da Coach]

This is a serious question and I hope I don't get flamed for it, just because I am an ISU fan.

Do basketball players at Bradley have any say on being redshirted or not?

Absolutely- Coach Les has said many times he never asks any kid to redshirt if they don't want to. He advises the players, but in the end it is their choice.