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Final: BU 63 UIC 62

T- I agree the ball needs to go into the post....but our post players haven't been very consistent with the ball inside. I love it when we shoot the 3 from inside out too.....I have no idea what our % is when we do that but I would guess it's better...I wish the bigs would pass back out when doubled and reset in the post to get the ball back..

Talent wise, and I've said this all season...our starting 5 except for JE IMO can play with most teams in the Valley but they have to play fairly well. We don't have any dominant players that compensate for our lack of inside production or 3 point shooting......and that's why we have to play nearly perfect to compete....we haven't been able to count on the bench when a starter has an off night or injury...Bell and Crawford have shown some flashes but really haven't been consistent either.

Many think Grier and Fields have helped DSE and WL from a practice perspective and now we need the same competition inside.......
 
battlebasset said:
When ever a BU game is on television, I turn down the volume, turn on WMBD and use the "pause live TV" feature on my DVR until the WMBD play by play syncs up with the action on my screen. That way I don't have to listen to the horrible announcers who know nothing about Bradley B-Ball past or present, or are so biased towards the other team that it is unbearable.
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Well in all fairness, the announcers are Chicago guys, so it would stand to reason they would root for UIC over Bradley. And I don't know if they are the normal announcers for UIC as most of their games are not shown on Comcast Sportsnet. The Horizon League shows most of their games for free on their website, but since I don't watch these games regularly, I have no clue as to who their regular announcers are. This may have been a one shot game shown being the Bracketbuster game.

That said, I do however expect them to get their basic information correct, irregardless of whom they are rooting for. That unfortunately was not taken care before yesterday's game, and they sounded clueless at times.
 
tornado said:
half-full, half-empty???

I see that we DO have the talent to play right with everyone in this league...if we didn't then we wouldn't even be able to keep with them for a half...

But the severe lack of depth and short bench is the main factor - there are others - that cause us at times to get out-played badly for considerable stretches....

Remember - UICis a team that hasn't played well in the entire past two months - they were just coming off two consecutive losses to the absolute bottom-dwellers in the Horizon!

then we started right from the tip-off feeding the low post and going right at their major weakness - their defense in the paint - and it worked
we quickly picked up a couple buckets down low to take our biggest lead in the first 4 minutes!

Then our offense switched for several minutes to just shooting threes and UIC not only got right back into the game - they ran out to a 12-pt lead until we finally tried to get it down low again..
Then we scored on several of the next possessions.

No matter what people think about our post play - we are still a better team in the long run if we try every possession to get the ball into the paint instead of shooting 5 seconds into the possession from a bodylength beyond the arc - ......we are not a team that's going to win consistently with our 3-pt shooting.

...pass it, dribble it, or whatever - we need to get into the paint..
If you add our "Points in the paint" to our FT's which all come from getting to the paint - then we scored 49 of 62 in the paint
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Half-empty or half-full? I don't know. We'll see how our incoming players step in next year to replace the seniors we lose. But agreed we have a very short bench, otherwise we would be competing for a championship this year, and beating UIC by 15 points. But unfortunately we can't because of that. However, the talent we do have has done very well considering this.

Regarding the points in the paint, do you see this as bad coaching decisions, or continual rushing of shots by our players? Personally, I don't believe Geno is telling his players to take quick three's at any time unless they feel they have an open chance. And sometimes our inside shots don't go in either. I just think we have a few players who think they are Kyle Korver or John Paxon with a 50+% three point shooting percentage sometimes. I understand we do shoot three's well in spurts, but we are too inconsistent to be doing this all the time. We are not Creighton or Butler with gaudy three point shooters. That's why I have a hard time believing Geno is changing up the offense during the game to forego easy points in the paint. I know maybe he wants to switch things up once in awhile in order to keep the other team's defense on their toes, but I can't believe he would say just shoot 3's for 30 minutes before going back to pounding the ball in the paint the last five minutes.
 
Wait...you're telling me a coach made adjustments within the game away from something that doesn't work?!? Unheard of!!


My opinion is any road win is a good win.
 
JMM28 said:
Wait...you're telling me a coach made adjustments within the game away from something that doesn't work?!? Unheard of!!


My opinion is any road win is a good win.
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Dan Dakich just said on the Illinois-Michigan game that Michigan may have the best offensive coach in America. But he just let his guard, Burke, just have 2 straight possessions where he ran no sets and just let him dribble and create for 35 seconds.

If it works, it works
 
tornado said:
no - not adjustments - an abandonment of the entire game plan and allow players to do as they wish
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I have no idea what are you are trying to get at T....DSE and Walt were driving the lane with success......nothing was abandoned.....

or is this your way of discrediting our coaching staff?
 
tornado said:
no - not adjustments - an abandonment of the entire game plan and allow players to do as they wish
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I'm not sure he just abandoned everything at the end to allow the players to do whatever they wanted. Admittedly I only skimmed through the game pretty quickly last night and did not watch it in full detail. But from what I saw, I don't get the impression that Geno just gave everything up in favor of their players calling the offense.
 
lefty said:
I have no idea what are you are trying to get at T....DSE and Walt were driving the lane with success......nothing was abandoned.....

or is this your way of discrediting our coaching staff?
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We drove the lane successfully against insu, isu, and uic. I think we made the adjustment driving to the basket in the second half and we made an adjustment to defense going to the zone. IMO I think the coaching staff has done really well with the cards dealt.
 
Braves2011 said:
We drove the lane successfully against insu, isu, and uic. I think we made the adjustment driving to the basket in the second half and we made an adjustment to defense going to the zone. IMO I think the coaching staff has done really well with the cards dealt.
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and I agree with you
 
Braves2011 said:
We drove the lane successfully against insu, isu, and uic. I think we made the adjustment driving to the basket in the second half and we made an adjustment to defense going to the zone. IMO I think the coaching staff has done really well with the cards dealt.
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Absolutely correct. As I said above....

BradleyJD said:
Dan Dakich just said on the Illinois-Michigan game that Michigan may have the best offensive coach in America. But he just let his guard, Burke, just have 2 straight possessions where he ran no sets and just let him dribble and create for 35 seconds.

If it works, it works
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Allowing good players to make plays is coaching. That's what coaching is all about, in fact. Get players in the best spot to make plays.

Sometimes that is allowing them to read the floor and create...much like a running back deciding on cutback lanes.
 
BradleyJD said:
Allowing good players to make plays is coaching. That's what coaching is all about, in fact. Get players in the best spot to make plays.

Sometimes that is allowing them to read the floor and create...much like a running back deciding on cutback lanes.
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That's a great point. I don't believe Geno just took the rest of the afternoon off and let the players call plays as they chose too. But what I think he does is he gives the players the freedom to create plays as the opportunities permit them too if initial set play does not work. I agree that that is what most good coaches do.
 
lefty said:
I have no idea what are you are trying to get at T....DSE and Walt were driving the lane with success......nothing was abandoned.....

or is this your way of discrediting our coaching staff?
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why are you attributing those words to me - I gave the link - that came directly from the sports writer at the Sun Times
 
tornado said:
why are you attributing those words to me - I gave the link - that came directly from the sports writer at the Sun Times
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That doesn't mean this writer is correct in his/her assessment of the game. I would like to hear confirmation from Geno himself. If he did indeed do what this person claims he did, someone should ask him on his radio show this week.
 
tornado said:
why are you attributing those words to me - I gave the link - that came directly from the sports writer at the Sun Times
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Well normally if you think someone is wrong you call them out. Since you didn't I figured you agreed.

I don't agree with him. Do you?
 
tornado said:
why are you attributing those words to me - I gave the link - that came directly from the sports writer at the Sun Times
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Just because a flunky Chicago sports writer said we abandoned our game plan doesn't make it true. How does he know Geno's game plan? I doubt Geno let a Chicago sports writer sit in on practice this week.

Just sour grapes on the sports writers part I would guess.
 
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