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carter said:
Can I ask a question which may sound silly to some.Why are so many people making such a big deal about being able to recruit the Midwest and our area?When you hear where other recruits come from with other programs they are from all over the United States.Why would this be so different for Bradley?
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I'm in your camp! We just need a coach that can sell and then put BU on the map so the need to explain where BU is, would be the same as what school plays in Stockton, WA.
 
ser_solace said:
Because the Midwest is full of talent, and you should at least be able to recruit in your own backyard.

Otherwise, there's more expended effort and resources required to recruit out of your region. Very tough I imagine to recruit nationally if your school is not a household name. BU though will at least have some name recognition from within our region. Local TV and radio will at least mention it. Why waste the free PR by not recruiting in the Midwest?

Get more local kids on the team and you probably also have more local fan support.
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This is exactly why we need a good coach that can also recruit the mid-west.
 
Hey -- I got a question...

Dave Reynolds just said Parker charges $50,000 fee for doing the coaching search...but Kyle Dierking on WMBD said the fee is $75,000...and almost every other site from any university doing a similar search says it is $75,000

Other schools that have gone public with the amounts they had to pay also say it is "$75,000 fee to engage the search firm"

The only references to anyone getting Parker engaged for $50,000 are over a year ago and older...

so......isn't $75,000 a lot of money compared to what it would cost just to ask or advertise for applicants, screen them and interview them and then save most of that $75K?
If you do a little research, you find that guys hired via Parker have NOT historically been any better than those hired by other means.
 
Dont you want a firm that has vast knowledge of how this process works this since the President and AD dont? 75k is nothing if it means we get the right guy for the job.
 
tornado said:
Hey -- I got a question...

so......isn't $75,000 a lot of money compared to what it would cost just to ask or advertise for applicants, screen them and interview them and then save most of that $75K?
If you do a little research, you find that guys hired via Parker have NOT historically been any better than those hired by other means.
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I agree that it a lot of money to pay for something that I consider to be part of an AD's job responsibility. I'm guessing the only real benefit that they bring to the table is their relationship with the national coaching network and their ability to gauge interest and build a list of potential and qualified candidates on a confidential basis. I'm sure a lot of candidates would rather not let their administration know that they are looking. Remember what BC did to their football coach when they found out he was looking?
 
amckillip said:
Same reason companies use consulting firms to make decisions - minimizes risk.
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Really this is not true at all. Companies use consulting firms because they dont have the people internally to do the job. As a descision maker you have a much higher risk if you pay a large amount of money to an outside firm and the job isnt done right.
 
BraveGrad said:
Dont you want a firm that has vast knowledge of how this process works this since the President and AD dont? 75k is nothing if it means we get the right guy for the job.
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I would expect the AD to have this knowledge; it is his job. However, I understand that there are reasons for a search firm as well.
 
BraveGrad said:
Really this is not true at all. Companies use consulting firms because they dont have the people internally to do the job. As a descision maker you have a much higher risk if you pay a large amount of money to an outside firm and the job isnt done right.
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Haha, that is true sometimes, but a LARGE portion of the time they are brought to make a decision the company already knows needs to be made and don't want to be the bad guy. I've been in meetings where that strategy has been discussed and implemented in two top companies.
 
Yes some companies will bring in "The Bobs" to do that kind of stuff but in this case Parker was brought in to do this

"As the world's leading executive search firm in collegiate athletics, we understand the complexities involved in collegiate athletic searches, including the high expectations and demands of various constituency groups and the management of public perception. To address those issues and challenges faced by the client, the Parker Collegiate Athletic Search Process was developed. Through this process, Parker Executive Search has successfully completed search assignments for many public and private colleges and universities, providing leaders at all levels of intercollegiate sports, including athletic administrators and coaches."

Bringing this firm in does not in anyway reduce the pressure or risk on JG or MC, it simply helps them make the best choice they can.
 
BraveGrad said:
Really this is not true at all. Companies use consulting firms because they dont have the people internally to do the job. As a descision maker you have a much higher risk if you pay a large amount of money to an outside firm and the job isnt done right.
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But if the firm is respected, you can pass a bad hire off as a fluke, and their butt is covered.
 
If the new hire doesn't work out, it doesn't matter how good the search firm is. It will still fall on Glasser and Cross. I know that no one on here will buy "It's not our fault, it was the search firm"
 
I like that they are bringing in a group of experts in this matter. Imagine the alternative? How would you expect them to be able to reach out to said candidates? $75 K may sound steep but in reality for an executive search job it is on par with industry standard.

On keeping a lid on it. We all now know they are capable of doing that, just wish it had happened with JL's firing.
 
SFP said:
I like that they are bringing in a group of experts in this matter. Imagine the alternative? How would you expect them to be able to reach out to said candidates? $75 K may sound steep but in reality for an executive search job it is on par with industry standard.

On keeping a lid on it. We all now know they are capable of doing that, just wish it had happened with JL's firing.
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I am starting to come around and actually like the search firm. However, the results will be the final judge of this process.
 
Rusty 54 said:
If the new hire doesn't work out, it doesn't matter how good the search firm is. It will still fall on Glasser and Cross. I know that no one on here will buy "It's not our fault, it was the search firm"
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JG and MC aren't worried about us, its the board of trustees that they care about.
 
amckillip said:
JG and MC aren't worried about us, its the board of trustees that they care about.
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I agree, and to me its sad. We may be viewed as a fringe group on a message board, but to me we are just a bunch of average fans that live and die Bradley basketball. I bet we have everyone from BSS members to the Red Sea to people in the last row at Carver to people who haven't been to a Bradley game in years. We are the "10,000 coaches"

They aren't required to be transparent to us average joes, but it sure would be nice.
 
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