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does that include coach les?
To my knowledge, Coach Les has never posted an opinion of any kind here or on any message board.
But are you suggesting that Coach Les should listen to the posters on message boards before he takes a point of view or makes decisions?
I am sure there are some posters who believe they are more qualified to make decisions, but I don't think so.
But are you suggesting that Coach Les should listen to the posters on message boards before he takes a point of view or makes decisions?
I am sure there are some posters who believe they are more qualified to make decisions, but I don't think so.
no. but you inferred it was no big deal.coach les went public and suspended tb for the third time this season.obviously by his actions coach les thinks it was more than what u stated.do you agree with coach les suspending tb?
well-stated.agree.
After talking to some team officials, and BU admins last night, I can tell you that they did not think the actions of TB were anywhere near as serious or involved legal concerns as many hysterical posters on message boards tried to make them out to be. Coach Les did the right thing to send a message. I never suggested this was not some kind of team rules violation and should not be punished, so please don't try to imply that. But my opinon of this not being nearly as serious as many were saying, was indeed correct. According to the highest authority, the administration did not think it was anything more than a simple team rules violation and nobody from administration ever got involved or intended to get involved with this. It was strictly a team matter, and was left in Coach Les' capable hands.
Braves4Life
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I'm sorry da coach but when you and others like tulip try to sugar-coat this as being "blown out of proportion" and "no big deal" I find that to be a load of cr@p! I don't think the "message boarders" that oppose your point of view are being hysterical. Rather, I think we have a high level of integrity and love for our university. And we certainly DO NOT like seeing one player destroy the integrity of the team, the coach, and Bradley University. This situation and others that TB have been involved in are an embarrassment to BU. This stuff might be OK at SIU, ISU, Tennessee, Kentucky, or Kansas but I do not want to see it at Bradley!
You say it is "no big deal" but Coach Les thinks otherwise. It was obvious that he was not too happy about what TB did when questioned by Snell on that post game show. He seemed disgusted, disappointed, and at the end of his rope with TB. It's rumored that TB might get a 3 game suspension. Is that "no big deal"? This kid has had 3 transgressions in one season (that we know of). Why don't his team mates take a stand with this kid? Are they that soft and timid? Is TB that tough and intimidating to his team mates? Or do his team mates just not care that one of their best player has let them down on at least 3-4 occasions this year? These guys need to show up at his dorm as a team and "set TB straight"!!!!! This cannot be allowed to continue!!!!! I'm embarrassed and many alumni and posters on this board are embarrassed by TB's actions!!!!! And you should be too....... I'm shocked that you are not.
tornado
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B4L, it is not going to get out of control...settle down....
or have you NOT noticed that this happens at every other schoool, and ONLY at BU is it getting penalized!!
In fact, one potential NBA draft pick currently playing in the Valley not only tweets from class, but he also posts VIDEO from class showing the female classmates!!! (and there are many others....I can give ample examples)
"Class is boring http://twitvid.com/37972 "
http://twitter.com/Osiris_Eldridge/status/3892272671
http://www.twitvid.com/37972
and how about Kellen Thornton, who posted this tweet from class with a picture...
"I thought only ****** (racial epithet) fell asleep in class an he snorin loud... This class boring as that thang.. "
http://twitter.com/kelzboog21/status/5834998520
http://img70.yfrog.com/i/m05.jpg/
Thornton also posts tons of terribly offensive tweets with racial slurs and obscenities, then this...
"Bored as hell def shouldn't have went to class.. Smh"
http://twitter.com/kelzboog21/status/8910715283
and...from just late last night...(midnite)
"Now drunk as f**k-- yea me too lol
about 11 hours ago from Twitterrific"
http://twitter.com/kelzboog21/status/9416592235
or have you NOT noticed that this happens at every other schoool, and ONLY at BU is it getting penalized!!
In fact, one potential NBA draft pick currently playing in the Valley not only tweets from class, but he also posts VIDEO from class showing the female classmates!!! (and there are many others....I can give ample examples)
"Class is boring http://twitvid.com/37972 "
http://twitter.com/Osiris_Eldridge/status/3892272671
http://www.twitvid.com/37972
and how about Kellen Thornton, who posted this tweet from class with a picture...
"I thought only ****** (racial epithet) fell asleep in class an he snorin loud... This class boring as that thang.. "
http://twitter.com/kelzboog21/status/5834998520
http://img70.yfrog.com/i/m05.jpg/
Thornton also posts tons of terribly offensive tweets with racial slurs and obscenities, then this...
"Bored as hell def shouldn't have went to class.. Smh"
http://twitter.com/kelzboog21/status/8910715283
and...from just late last night...(midnite)
"Now drunk as f**k-- yea me too lol
about 11 hours ago from Twitterrific"
http://twitter.com/kelzboog21/status/9416592235
I'm sorry da coach but when you and others like tulip try to sugar-coat this as being "blown out of proportion" and "no big deal" I find that to be a load of cr@p! I don't think the "message boarders" that oppose your point of view are being hysterical. Rather, I think we have a high level of integrity and love for our university. And we certainly DO NOT like seeing one player destroy the integrity of the team, the coach, and Bradley University. This situation and others that TB have been involved in are an embarrassment to BU. This stuff might be OK at SIU, ISU, Tennessee, Kentucky, or Kansas but I do not want to see it at Bradley!
You say it is "no big deal" but Coach Les thinks otherwise. It was obvious that he was not too happy about what TB did when questioned by Snell on that post game show. He seemed disgusted, disappointed, and at the end of his rope with TB. It's rumored that TB might get a 3 game suspension. Is that "no big deal"? This kid has had 3 transgressions in one season (that we know of). Why don't his team mates take a stand with this kid? Are they that soft and timid? Is TB that tough and intimidating to his team mates? Or do his team mates just not care that one of their best player has let them down on at least 3-4 occasions this year? These guys need to show up at his dorm as a team and "set TB straight"!!!!! This cannot be allowed to continue!!!!! I'm embarrassed and many alumni and posters on this board are embarrassed by TB's actions!!!!! And you should be too....... I'm shocked that you are not.
I agree with everything you said B4L except the last line. I'll let individuals decide how they want to react to this and don't want to "force" my feelings on someone else.
I will add I TOO talked to somer higher BU admins in the lobby last nite and got the EXACT opposite sentiments. While they didn't go into detail (and I respected that) one could EASILY decipher that they are troubled with this pattern.
AGAIN....to those that are troubled with this, including the staff, its the fact that this is the THIRD time he has done something the JL determined serious enough to warrant suspension.
THAT simple fact can't be denied. When was the last time a player from BU got suspended THREE times in a year. Thats letting alot of people down.
Now, moving forward, lets hope the light is going on inside his head and this is the last time he forces JL's hand.
I want to talk hoops, not suspensions.
I'm sorry da coach but when you and others like tulip try to sugar-coat this as being "blown out of proportion" and "no big deal" I find that to be a load of cr@p! I don't think the "message boarders" that oppose your point of view are being hysterical. Rather, I think we have a high level of integrity and love for our university. And we certainly DO NOT like seeing one player destroy the integrity of the team, the coach, and Bradley University. This situation and others that TB have been involved in are an embarrassment to BU. This stuff might be OK at SIU, ISU, Tennessee, Kentucky, or Kansas but I do not want to see it at Bradley!
You say it is "no big deal" but Coach Les thinks otherwise. It was obvious that he was not too happy about what TB did when questioned by Snell on that post game show. He seemed disgusted, disappointed, and at the end of his rope with TB. It's rumored that TB might get a 3 game suspension. Is that "no big deal"? This kid has had 3 transgressions in one season (that we know of). Why don't his team mates take a stand with this kid? Are they that soft and timid? Is TB that tough and intimidating to his team mates? Or do his team mates just not care that one of their best player has let them down on at least 3-4 occasions this year? These guys need to show up at his dorm as a team and "set TB straight"!!!!! This cannot be allowed to continue!!!!! I'm embarrassed and many alumni and posters on this board are embarrassed by TB's actions!!!!! And you should be too....... I'm shocked that you are not.
Ok so you think these things that were said were appropriate?
There were anonymous message boarders saying-
-What TB did amounted to "sexual harassment" and that he was laible for lawsuits and legal action against him. For anyone who actually believes this, please look up the legal definition of "sexual harassment". (Reality-what TB did doesn't even come close).
-there were some hysterical posters claiming that what TB did was a violation of the law! They claimed it's illegal to take someone's picture on private property without getting their permission. This is, of course, ridiculous. If this was true, everyone of us who has ever taken a picture at an amusement park, a sporting venue, restaurant. etc (all private properties), is also guilty, and we've all done it thousands of times. Even newspapers take pictures and publish them without getting people's permission. This is simply not any legal issue at all, and certainly is not a violation of any law.
-there were people demanding that TB's actions warranted expulsion from school (reality- they were never close).
-there were claims that TB's actions violated multiple student and athgletic codes of behavior. (Reality- nothing TB did comes close to meeting the definitions of the codes that were cited)
-there were demands that the coaches be fired, immediately.
-even Bradley's SID was held responsible by one poster
No, I think it's obvious now that people who saw this as a much more minor transgression were the rational ones. I was the first to predict that Coach Les would suspend TB Friday night, and I was right. Many posters I have had private communication with can confirm this, but it's also right in this TB thread. I am not saying what TB did wasn't inappropriate, as it was, but it never rose to the level of what was being accused. And in the end, all these hysterical rantings about legal issues, expulsion, violations of athletic and student codes, and sexual harrassment were way off base. Sorry we can't all see that. I have no problem if anyone disagrees, but I just wanted to make everyone aware that the BU administration agrees with me on this.
Braves4Life
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I don't necessarily agree with that DUBrave. In fact, in today's controlled campus environment there is probably a lower likelihood of trouble at a fraternity party than at an off campus bar.
Exactly...go to the bars...go to the parties but "buyer beware".......you could be the most innocent person there but get involved in something that will cause you trouble.
Not much good happens after midnite.....
Its a risk reward situation.
Dogs this was definitely well after midnight as I was at the front door helping with security. After we didn't let him and a couple others in, he got into a car with a girl and left.
This day and age with task force from the state police coming to campus virtually every weekend or every other weekend, fraternity parties are getting shut down pretty frequently and many people end up with tickets. Does anyone want to wake up the next morning and read about more athletes ending up with drinking tickets for being at a party that got busted? I don't. It happened once either last semester or spring of last year and it made major news in the PJ Star because they are athletes so they represent the university more to the public than your normal college student.
B4L I strongly disagree with you because of the fact that I see how many parties get busted on a weekly basis. Task force is here so often that I'm surprised we have as many parties as we do because it seems like your party is more likely to get busted than not.
The bars can be trouble too but task force always stops to bust the parties on campus and when they can't, then they move to the bars.
Yeah...I agree with you. Thats whay I'm saying...go ahead and go but DON'T be surprised if trouble follows. Its pretty much inherent with the after midnite scene.
AZ BU Fan
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Guilty of immaturity. "Mad" magazine type of immaturity.
Many college 20 year olds suffer from the same affliction, as due some adults! Some even go onto being VP's of big companies!
First time problem, no start. Second time problem, reduced playing time. Third time problem, go sit in the corner with a time out and think about it.
Biggest problem I had with this episode is taking a person's picture, with out their consent, and sending it out into the 'ether'. A college professor is not a public figure. I don't think I would have enjoyed a customer or co-worker taking my picture at my workplace during work and then sending it out to the world.
Replace the word 'suspension' with "being grounded", and the incident isn't as big a deal as its being made out to be. ;-)
Hopefully the aspect of letting his team mates down will be a bigger deterrent than the reaction of our Forum members.
Many college 20 year olds suffer from the same affliction, as due some adults! Some even go onto being VP's of big companies!
First time problem, no start. Second time problem, reduced playing time. Third time problem, go sit in the corner with a time out and think about it.
Biggest problem I had with this episode is taking a person's picture, with out their consent, and sending it out into the 'ether'. A college professor is not a public figure. I don't think I would have enjoyed a customer or co-worker taking my picture at my workplace during work and then sending it out to the world.
Replace the word 'suspension' with "being grounded", and the incident isn't as big a deal as its being made out to be. ;-)
Hopefully the aspect of letting his team mates down will be a bigger deterrent than the reaction of our Forum members.
ONE poster asked if legal action could be taken and ONE guy has thrown out the sexual harrasment talk. The MAJORITY of posters on the other board are simply having an open dialouge discussing the posible scenario's.
I will admit many aren't happy but when you embarass the University many of these fine fans love and support it will generate some strong feelings.
And there is NO WAY the BU admins are happy with all that has transpired. NO POSSIBLE WAY they want a player representing BU acting like this.
The person I spoke with did indicate apologies were given and HOPEFULLY this is over and everyone will move on.
Lets HOPE this is the end to it all and that TB doesn't get suspended a 4th time...
Well said...the only thing I would disagree on is your 1st to 3rd offense punishment. Yes had this been Sam Maniscalco who simply doesn't get in trouble you'd say, "sam don't let it happen again" but TB has two PREVIOUS team violations and needs to be, and I think IS, on a much shorter leash.
I couldn't agree more though an his teammates coming "to his rescue"...hearing it from your peers often carries more weight then from authority figures.
While it was OK to see him in the huddle and going through his DSE pregame routine...perhaps a bit of isolation from his "brahs" might have sent a better message.
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