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Wichita State picks up Oregon transfer PG

We just picked up Malcolm Armstead from Oregon. He transferred out, and is a Sr. so we only get him for one year, after sits out. I think marshall wanted another PG option after Ragland graduates this year. He looks to have a lot of athleticism and defensive skills. he didn't fit in with Altman up in Oregon, but I think he's right up Marshall's alley.

http://shockerhoops.net/malcolm-armstead-to-transfer-to-wsu-from-oregon/

I think this was a good pick up for you guys. Marshall really knows how to build the puzzle; I think he'll really give WSU a good year once he hits the floor.
 
gee, think of that. Going from a team that won the NIT last year to some nobody team from the midwest! XD (Previous thread reference about a folly in the Oregon press)
 
I think this was a good pick up for you guys. Marshall really knows how to build the puzzle; I think he'll really give WSU a good year once he hits the floor.

Totally agree with you. I've mentioned it on the blog before, but I'll say it here, Marshall has a knack for never having to rebuild a team. He really knows how to recruit the JUCO scene, and the transfer scene. Gabe Blair was a transfer from ECU. I can't wait to see Armstead running the point and playing the Marshall style of defense.

gee, think of that. Going from a team that won the NIT last year to some nobody team from the midwest! XD (Previous thread reference about a folly in the Oregon press)

HAHA good memory, gave me a chuckle.
 
On another note, Horizon League fans are really stuck up (thinking they're more of a traditional conference then they are) especially ones that JUST JOINED hemhem. But oh well, I must root for them anyway! :p
 
Here's a little bio on Armstead -- he's a good pickup save for the fact that WSU has to commit two years of scholarship to get him for just one season in 2012-1013..

Armstead was recruited out of high school but went to Chipola when he didn't get as strong of attention as he wanted -- even though they said this about him BEFORE his high school senior year --
"Lightning quick Malcolm Armstead...one of the fastest rising guards in
the class of 2008
Armstead’s performance...turned the heads of many coaches, while making
believers out of non-believers in his skill set. ....
Malcolm boasts a 3.5 grade point average as well.
....quick first step and superior on the ball skills.

South Carolina, Tennessee, Ole Miss, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Michigan
State and Michigan and UAB fills Malcolm’s laundry list of schools. He hasn’t
made a decision yet, but stated he may make one soon..."


He changed AAU programs and high schools a few times like a lot of kids do...and landed at Chipola.


Wichita State was one of about a dozen schools to reportedly offer him back in 2008-2009 when he was a freshman at Chipola - Link


But during the recruiting process he visited numerous schools -- and while he was doing so there was an odd negative buzz that caused several schools to drop out and stop recruiting him...in that interval he variously sent signals that he was leaning here or there but then backed off...

Note that on 2/23/09 they list:
"Iowa, Arkansas, Kentucky, Florida, St. John’s, a couple of mid majors, a
couple of Big East schools, a couple in the PAC-10 ...with Arkansas,
Kentucky, Washington State, Iowa, Wichita State, Colorado, Fresno State
and Providence" all reportedly offering. - Link

Then just three months later, after Malcolm's season was done -- on 5/06/09, now the exact same recruiting service writer says that there are now only two schools still in the hunt ...both kinda bottom-dweller programs whose coaches are on very, very hot seats (and would each indeed be gone very soon) - Iowa with Todd Lickliter - a long time friend of Greg Heiar coach at Chipola, and all-of-a-sudden Ernie Kent at Oregon is calling and is trying to talk Malcolm into waiting and visiting Oregon - but has not offered! - Link

Then later - there's a report that he commits to Oregon then another report that he backed off his commitment...
Finally, when Oregon also offers and signs Malcolm's close friend and Chipola teammate Jeremy Jacob, then Armstead also gives his verbal to newcomer in the recruiting race, Oregon.

So for such a talented PG -- who initially claimed offers from Kentucky,other SEC and Big East schools, it was a bit puzzling how his recruiting ended pretty much by Armstead signing with the only school left making any push for him and all the others dropping out. Go figure -- but many of the premium recruiting articles hint at something...

Then after his 1st season at Oregon - there's a coaching change, multiple player departures, some serious issues and scandal, and Armstead asks for his release and wants out..but changes his mind and stays for his junior year.

Then Gregg Marshall at Wichita State actually hired Chipola head coach Greg Heiar ....just literally only a few days before Armstead proclaims he is done at Oregon and is going to transfer - and he lands at Wichita...

As you know -- Chipola is always loaded with good scorers so that helps a PG's stats...
Here are Armstead's stats in his one year at Chipola..
35 games, 6.8 ppg, 53% FG, 66% on FT's, 2.9 rpg, 4.9 apg -- similar stats to Clevin Hannah the year before.

Here are Armstead's stats from Oregon - two seasons...
09-10 - 32 games, 10.3 ppg, 45% FG, 72.5% FT, 2.5 rpg, 4.3 apg
10-11 - 38 games, 8.6 ppg, 43% FG, 69.5% FT, 2.9 rpg, 4.4 apg
 
I've heard WSU has just signed 2012 recruit Fred Van Fleet, a PG from Rockford and Top 3 in IL. He sounds like a good one for WSU and the Valley.
Can't sign until the early signing period; only a verbal.
Chose Wichita State over Northern Illinois and Kent State.
 
This is in fact a very odd time to commit -- as seen by the fact that almost nobody from Classes of 2012 and 2013 are committing right now..
and the reason is that we are JUST about to begin an incredibly BUSY and active 4-week period of AAU play when every college coach in the nation is out on the road to watch the kids play,
and every kid who is playing AAU ball is hoping for the chance to show his stuff and hoping to "blow up"...
 
he hasn't "blown up" yet

Not much room to "blow up" in the state if you're already #2 or 3...

Is the 2012 IL class weak? I'm with RSE... seems odd. If you were top 2 or 3, and have no other "big" offers... What does that say about anyone rated below him? Though that's assuming he actually IS better than the others and is actually the number 2-3...
 
if the #3 guy in the state is a 3-Star and being recruited only by mid-majors - then I think you have answered your own quesiton..
Rivals even has the #2 guy in the state as a 3-Star
 
Here is the link on the blog to the commit http://shockerhoops.net/fred-van-vleet-commits-to-wichita-state/

I have a few comments on his low star rating, compared to his ranking in the state. Van Vleet is 5'11'' and is a pure PG, he's not a slasher, he's not a combo sg that drains 3's. He's not flashy, he doesn't score tons of points. He dishes and plays solid D. He averaged 5 assists and 5 steals in his Junior year. Personally I think you will see him rated at a 4 star by the time his Senior year is over, and his ability on the court isn't relative to his rating.

Also Fred had said that he was ready to get the recruiting process over, so he could focus on basketball and not recruiting. He loves WSU and loves the staff (mainly Dana Ford). And Coach Ford is notorious in his short career for recruiting Illinois hard, and actually pulling players out. While he was at Tenn State he pulled 3 players from Illinois that they never expected to pull. Look for WSU to pull a lot of talent from Illinois in the future.

I'm thoroughly stoked to have Fred on the team.
 
I read some comments from Van Vleet (if I can find the link I'll post it) which indicated he wasn't caught up in making his recruitment a big affair or focused on getting a "big time" offer.

He was starting to turn some heads at this past spring's AAU events and I wouldn't be surprised if, as ShockerHoops said, he ends up a 4-star. Although since he's already committed (to a "mid-major", no less), the services may not pay any attention to him.
 
sounds like he is similar to Ehimen Orukpe -- who after more than four years since he verbaled, and after claims that the guy could be a starter from day one (despite avg. 5pt/5 reb in juco)-- still has scored a grand total of only 19 career points at Wichita......
 
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