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Oh oh-John Wilkins update

Yes and No.

The suit may let him play this year with SCC.

Signing an LOI does not prevent you from playing Juco ball. The positive that some posters see out of JW not playing ball is that big schools won't recruit/be after him, giving BU the edge.

JW not signing the LOI sounds like it has more to do with giving himself some footing for this lawsuit (by telling to NJCAA that not being able to play is hindering his ability to move on to the NCAA at a four-year school. (If he signed an LOI, the NJCAA wouldn't care, because he already is set to play DI)
 
jeffsu said:
Yes and No.

The suit may let him play this year with SCC.

Signing an LOI does not prevent you from playing Juco ball. The positive that some posters see out of JW not playing ball is that big schools won't recruit/be after him, giving BU the edge.

JW not signing the LOI sounds like it has more to do with giving himself some footing for this lawsuit (by telling to NJCAA that not being able to play is hindering his ability to move on to the NCAA at a four-year school. (If he signed an LOI, the NJCAA wouldn't care, because he already is set to play DI)
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I'm hoping this is so JW's dad's lawyers can claim more damages. (juco Playing Time and scholie < juco and D1 scholie and Playing Time) I'd imagine more damages means a stronger suit...
 
He will be at Bradley. He knows there is no "better option" in all of college basketball. BU is a special place, and some of you "fans" need to start acting like it.
 
Updated article by Dave Reynolds-
http://www.bradleyhoops.com/homepage/x2087392463/Bradley-is-put-on-hold

In the last line, Dave says, "Bradley, which has two scholarships to give for next season, is not expected to sign any other players during the early period."

Is DR correct?
The way I count it, Bradley has 3 seniors who are on scholarship and who will be gone next year (Sam Singh, Dodie Dunson, Chris Roberts). So I count 3 BU scholarships to give for 2010.

Here is shaunguth's scholarship grid, and if JW doesn't sign, then it appears to confirm that BU will have 3 open scholarships for next year.-
BUScholarshipGrid545.jpg
 
brocks said:
He will be at Bradley. He knows there is no "better option" in all of college basketball. BU is a special place, and some of you "fans" need to start acting like it.
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I'm hoping you're being sarcastic, but I'm guessing you're not. I love BU as much as anybody on this board and agree that Carver is special(special enough to be my screensaver on my phone:)), but c'mon, there's no "better option" in all of D1 for a 4-star recruit???? Duke? UNC? KY?Mich ST?Kansas?etc.etc.
 
dogsrus said:
tornado said:
if JW cannot play basketball = then he is no longer eligible for a juco scholarship = then he cannot stay at SICC = then he isn't assured of getting his Assoc. Degree in time


Since when does getting your assoc. degree depend on a baskeball scholly? Very few people who recived degrees had any type of scholorship at all.
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dogs...if he loses his scholarship at SIC, then sure, he can go somewhere else to get his degree...but...
he'd have to either pay his own way at SICC or try to transfer elsewhere and hope for the good graces again of the NJCAA
that the credits he earns at SICC will transfer to the next place...
You really think the kid is looking forward to that??
...so which do you suggest he do?? Either way..."he isn't assured of getting his Assoc. Degree in time"
..which is what I think someone has already said...
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tornado said:
if JW cannot play basketball = then he is no longer eligible for a juco scholarship = then he cannot stay at SICC = then he isn't assured of getting his Assoc. Degree in time = thus he may not even be able or allowed to sign a LOI until this issue is resolved...IMHO
I simply think he is doing what he can - go get 'em John and I wish you and your advocates success!
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This here makes me real confused. Are you telling me that this kid and his parents can't figure out a way to pay for one YEAR of Junior College?:rolleyes:
 
Da Coach said:
Updated article by Dave Reynolds-
http://www.bradleyhoops.com/homepage/x2087392463/Bradley-is-put-on-hold

In the last line, Dave says, "Bradley, which has two scholarships to give for next season, is not expected to sign any other players during the early period."

Is DR correct?
The way I count it, Bradley has 3 seniors who are on scholarship and who will be gone next year (Sam Singh, Dodie Dunson, Chris Roberts). So I count 3 BU scholarships to give for 2010.

Here is shaunguth's scholarship grid, and if JW doesn't sign, then it appears to confirm that BU will have 3 open scholarships for next year.-
BUScholarshipGrid545.jpg
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Perhaps Sam Singh found the perpetual lifetime scholarship loophole? ;)

We better not be considering a Roberts redshirt, although I think a more accurate guess would be DR might be counting Harris for next year (Harris was supposed to play next year, but I think we found out his 2 year missions trip began this year instead of last)
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
This here makes me real confused. Are you telling me that this kid and his parents can't figure out a way to pay for one YEAR of Junior College?:rolleyes:
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JW should be taking 2 total years worth of classes (starting last spring, but I guess they would not be back-billing himm for past semesters), I'm sure he should be taking more than an average amount of credits. I know ICC bills by credits, not semester (like some 4 year schools) It is also possible that JW is not a technically a "resident" anywhere, (His best shot was IN when he lived with his dad in Gary) and would be paying much more expensive out-of-district rates. And, not being a resident, he may not qualify for standard student loans / assistance (Gov't stuff usually requires selective service enrollment...
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
This here makes me real confused. Are you telling me that this kid and his parents can't figure out a way to pay for one YEAR of Junior College?:rolleyes:
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geez...NO WHERE have I said anything about their ability to pay for a year of juco..and just maybe they'll do just that, but ....
can you NOT see how NJCAA's action places the family in a VERY difficult situation and dilemma?
WHY would he stay in Iowa, away from his family, away from where he might get a tuition discount for living within the district, and so why would he stay there??

...if he LIVES IN a district with junior colleges that his kid can possibly go to for less, just like my kids can go to ICC for reduced tuition in-district,
then give me some good reason why he'd stay at SICC??
Thus, like I clearly stated in my post...he'd be possibly inclined to transfer...and NJCAA reviews every transfer to see if the kid's credits transfer...
so he'd be, again, at the mercy of NJCAA....

Here's the statement simply..

If JW cannot play basketball for SICC then he loses his scholarship and has little reason to stay at SICC over any other junior college.
So wouldn't you transfer your kid home where he can live without paying room & board (thousands of $$) and paying out of state tuition?
 
Da Coach said:
In the last line, Dave says, "Bradley, which has two scholarships to give for next season, is not expected to sign any other players during the early period."

Is DR correct?
The way I count it, Bradley has 3 seniors who are on scholarship and who will be gone next year (Sam Singh, Dodie Dunson, Chris Roberts). So I count 3 BU scholarships to give for 2010.
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Yeah....I really don't understand that at all. :doubt:
 
The reason he would is so he can finish out there and play D-I ball next Fall.

There is zero guarantee that those courses would all transfer anywhere, let alone say for example ICC.

IF he takes that chance, he is taking the chance that they don't and he has another 1/2 year or so to go and loses another semester of D-I eligibility...


Would you want to take that chance if you were in that situation when you could very easily stay and finish out the next semester and 1/4 at your current school all while being able to practice with a team, where if he did in fact transfer to ICC, he wouldn't get the luxury of such?
 
SaintLouBrave22 said:
The reason he would is so he can finish out there and play D-I ball next Fall.

There is zero guarantee that those courses would all transfer anywhere, let alone say for example ICC...
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BINGO - precisely...you have hit it on the head...
the NJCAA ruling forces the family to pay the Iowa non-resident tuition and room and board -
instead of getting a scholarship... ..thus..
there are CLEAR and defined damages....
have you ever tried to pursue a lawsuit in which you can prove no damages??
I betcha you'd lose such a lawsuit..so can you NOT see my point?
 
Part of me would be glad to see where this law suit will lead to. There is something quite fishy here and with some due diligence from his lawyer and using the discovery process I have a feeling they will have a pretty good case. The problem is that lawyers cost money guys unless this is being done pro bono. If I was JW's dad I'd be going after the NJCAA with full vengeance.
 
Who has the better odds of being a Brave - Sean Harris or John Wilkins? Right now I would say 5/1 odds that Wilkins is a Brave, and 10/1 odds that Harris is a Brave. Thoughts?
 
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